Medicine Man – Shaman – Guru

Dreaming of a shaman or medicine man shows you have pierced the bubble of the rational world we often live in or are trapped by and have entered a more basic and extended world of ancient people. It can be a world or a state of mind in which you find wisdom or healing. It can also be a condition in which you meet or become different animals that communicate with you. Or you recognise the sacredness of a great tree or a being. Perhaps you even hear a voice or voices speaking to you. None of this is a sign of an ill mind or even of madness. See Core Self

This is explainable if we realise we all developed from a  single cell, which is a seed from which all life forms evolved from, but such cells never become old or die because it is immortal, for it keeps dividing and doesn’t die. In dividing it constantly creates copies of itself, but as it does  so it gathers new experience, it changes what is copied, so becomes the ‘seed’ for multi-cellular organism. We all started from the original one cell, and we, you and I,  are the result of gathered experience.

No plant or creature grows from a dead seed, and each living seed carries within it all the past gathered from all its forebears. So, the seed in your mother’s womb is as old as and even older than human kind, and you carry that wisdom or memories in you. But in this life you developed a new brain, and the memories, education and programming you gathered this time are what you built your personality from, but beneath that is a very ancient self.

Finding this very ancient self, hidden as it is by all your personal thinking and opinions, you find you are free from all the painful emotions, suicidal urges and personal hurts. To explore it see Opening to Life

So in some dreams the medicine man is a link with your ancestral memories. See ancestors

Carl Jung tells of well educated people who experienced visions of strange fantasies and were deeply disturbed by them. He tells of a theologian who assured him the visions of Ezekiel were symptoms of a morbid state of mind, and that the voices Moses and the prophets heard were signs that they were all suffering from hallucinations. So when the theologian actually experienced similar ‘symptoms’ he felt enormous panic. Yet if this happened to people from older cultures they would say they had experiences communications that were helpful.

Another of Jung findings talking to an Indian cultured in yoga:

‘You don’t mean the commentator on the Vedas who died centuries ago?’ I asked. 

‘Yes, I mean him he said, to my amazement. 

‘Then you are referring to a spirit?’ I asked. 

‘Of course it was his spirit,’ he agreed. 

At that moment I thought of Philemon. 

‘There arc ghostly gurus too,’ he added. ‘Most people have living gurus. But there always some who have a spirit for teacher’

Unfortunately our present attitudes arising from our modern culture have far more mental disturbance and even psychotic behaviour amongst us than the older cultures that had little or no mental illness. The amount of mental breakdown in western societies is enormous. So dreaming of a shaman or medicine man is a blessing.

An African jungle dweller, for instance, sees a nocturnal creature by daylight and knows it to be a medicine man who has temporarily taken its shape. Or he may regard it as the bush soul or ancestral spirit of one of his tribe. A tree may play a vital part in the life of a primitive, apparently possessing for him its own soul and voice, and the man concerned will feel that he shares its fate. There are some Indians in South America who will assure you that they are Red Arara parrots, though they are well aware that they lack feathers, wings, and beaks. For in the primitive’s world things do not have the same sharp boundaries they do in our ‘rational” societies. See Collective Unconscious

Like other ancient cultures, dreams were seen by the Amerindians as having certain marked features that could be gained from them. There could be an initiatory dream such as we have already considered. There could also be dreams telling where to hunt; dreams showing a new ritual giving some sort of power such as warding off illness, or finding a new relationship with everyday life, or attracting a lover; dreams could show the use of a herb for medicine; dreams might be caused by some sort of evil within ones body, or an external evil such as someone wishing you harm or an evil spirit; there could be a shared dream with another person; the dream might be a revelation from someone who was dead and now in the spirit world; or a dream, it could be a map supporting and guiding the dreamer throughout their whole life. See Native Americans

Example: I was going through some sort of initiatory test with many other people. At one point I confronted a tree stump that spoke. It had a large lower lip of bark that could protrude. I gave it something to eat that it spat out. It said it wanted something “connective” I believe. I dropped some knitting wool in its mouth. This satisfied it. It had a huge amount of wool in its mouth, and I was concerned whether it could eat the stuff. Then it wrote out my report. The document was very grand, and it was written out with an atmosphere of great solemnity and legality. I had passed the test, but not with very high marks – maybe because I put the wrong stuff in its mouth first.

Example: I had a dream that I was talking to four Native Americans about hair cutting. The woman started speaking to me. I asked her what tribe they were from and she told me. She went on to tell me that their tribe was part of my ancestry.

The tallest of the men began asking me if he could cut my hair. I was a little stunned by the question and said no. He went on to explain that he didn’t want to cut all of it off, but just to trim the ends. He said that cutting or trimming it would be a new beginning for me, almost like starting over in my life. I told him that I was going to do it when I got home.

Example: Other less obvious but powerful forms of slavery are connected with belief systems, political or religious, especially those with a powerful hierarchy that lives upon the labour of others. Religious systems that take money from their followers, or guru systems that do the same use human desires, fears or longings to enslave the being of others. Those at the top, like drug barons, still live on the work and income of others. Usually quite rigid controls or dictates are a sign of this sort of slavery.

At one time I went into the ashram of a well known guru in India. There were armed guards at the entrance and around the high fence surrounding the ashram. Once inside I was shocked by the immense marble and gold temples showing millions of American dollars had been pumped into the guru’s account. Yet the guru that I had loved and admired was Sai Baba of Shirdi, who while much money was given him each day, at the end of the day he had nothing, for he had given it away to those in need.

Useful Questions and Hints:

Does the native ask you anything, tell you or give you anything?

Have you any ancestors from a culture with different traditions?

Can you learn anything from your dream?

See Way of the Shaman – tradition – Working with associations – Inner World – Techniques for Exploring your Dreams

Comments

-RJ 2017-08-09 6:40:02

Since I was 5 I have had a recurring visitor, an elderly medicine man, in dreams and dream like states. I’m not sure what language he speaks but I can usually get the gist of what he is saying through pantomime and the places or times that he shows me. He has also appeared to those close to me who had similar dreams when they described them to me without ever having told them about my dreams before. Is there a resource that you know of that has recordings of various native languages?

    -Tony Crisp 2017-08-11 10:01:45

    Hi – It would help you to understand your dreams, if you would read – http://dreamhawk.com/news/summing-up/ and also http://dreamhawk.com/dream-encyclopedia/features-found-on-site/ which has so much information in.

    Nothing can replace your own ability to understand your dream. With a little effort you can do this by practising what is described in – http://dreamhawk.com/dream-encyclopedia/acting-on-your-dream/#BeingPerson or http://dreamhawk.com/dream-dictionary/getting-at-your-dreams-meaning/

    Tony

    RJ – Have you never heard of Pentecost where people hear and spoke languages they could not understand? It is a natural phenomena, not tied to Christianity. I have heard and spoken such languages many times, and it has little to do with what you hear, but with the great things trying to be communicated.

    Dreams use symbolic images, sounds and languages to try to communicate something that has no form to someone who thinks and lives in forms, words and images. So the dream creator uses the culture of the Native Amerivcans, which you unconsciously associate with mystery and wider awareness. I know you have firmly believed in a spirit form visiting you and others – a common experience for Americans.

    Speaking in a strange language is a common way in which the unconscious expresses its feelings and insights. It is a level three expression in Van Rhijn/Caldwell’s levels of consciousness. When the ‘tongues’ are considered as symbolic expression they transform into meaningful words, just as dream symbols do. My experiments with such phenomena convincingly show the common link between these often considered unrelated phenomena and how our unconscious works. See http://dreamhawk.com/dream-encyclopedia/rhijn-van/

    You have to get past the symbolism presented in the dream state to get to the real meaninng. You can do this by learning how to becpme the medicine man by using http://dreamhawk.com/dream-encyclopedia/acting-on-your-dream/#BeingPerson

-Patricia 2017-02-23 0:58:29

I had A dream last night that I was looking over myself and insurance to next to me and he said I can help. I do not remember him saying anything else. He then took a drink and at that moment I walked in and I looked at him and then I drink. He then had me lay on the ground and he laid beside me. At that moment I looked down at my face and my mouth was wide open like I was screaming and my eyes were rolled back into my head. Then the shaman and myself woke up and then I woke up in real life. What does this mean?

    -Tony Crisp 2017-02-23 10:19:15

    Hi – I am stopping from answering your posts fully – but will try to give hints; sometimes long ones because I quote from masses I have already put online. Also I need to take time to update the site – dreamhawk.

    It would help you to understand your dreams, if you would read – http://dreamhawk.com/approaches-to-being/questions-2/#Summing and also http://dreamhawk.com/dream-encyclopedia/features-found-on-site/

    Nothing can replace your own ability to understand your dream. With a little effort you can do this by practicing what is described in – http://dreamhawk.com/dream-encyclopedia/acting-on-your-dream/#BeingPersonOrThing or http://dreamhawk.com/dream-dictionary/getting-at-your-dreams-meaning/

    Tony

    The shaman is the part of you that represents your power of moving beyond the normal things you are aware of.
    The human personality – the You that you call yourself, with a name, is only a tiny thing when compared with the forces that you are unaware of that keep you alive even when you are not awake – breathing, heartbeat, etc.

    Many people as their awareness reaches beyond what they feel is their normal self feel scared. Such resistances cause us to create awful dreams and fears as a means of avoiding our own inner world and its wonders. We feel that we will be swallowed up and we will die. Many people as their awareness reaches beyond what they feel is their normal self feel scared. Such resistances cause us to create awful dreams and fears as a means of avoiding our own inner world and its wonders. We feel that we will be swallowed up and we will die. See Opening Yourself – http://dreamhawk.com/inner-life/opening-yourself/

-Keven 2016-08-21 10:23:54

I had a dream last night that 2 shamans were working on me I was laid down while chanted and blew powdered herbs all over me, it was a very colourful dream and feels significant! Please help

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