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Greetings / Re: Greetings from the East :)
« Last post by Tony Crisp on Yesterday at 10:29:51 AM »
Here's one of mine.

I had an extraordinary out of body experience. I had gone to bed early and longed to visit my mother in London, I being in Germany. Then I suddenly felt as if I were shooting upwards and experienced a feeling of coming out of pressure and was now free – like a cork out of a bottle.

I was then awake and looking down at my sleeping body and suddenly felt terrified (I realised afterwards it was terror that I was dying). Then I remembered reading about experiences such as this and was laughing uncontrollably because it was such a release from terror.

I was then flying across the German countryside, where I was living, curled up with my knees to my chest. I noticed as I passed over the rural countryside what looked like radiations emerging from several places; they were a bit like ripples on the surface of water when a stone has been thrown into it. But these ripples were three dimensional, and I wondered if they were emerging from people, perhaps praying.

After that I was flying over the Dutch coast, and could clearly see the many ships. But suddenly I found myself standing in our sitting room at home in London. It was such an astonishing experience I stood in shock looking down at my body, feeling it and trying to understand. My body felt solid and real and I was dressed in outdoor clothes not my pyjamas. Then with great enthusiasm I looked up and saw my mother sitting alone knitting, our Alsatian dog, Vince was lying asleep in front of the gas fire.

I felt sure my mother would see me because I felt physically present and absolutely and vitally awake in a way I had never experienced before. So, I called out to her, “Mum, look what has happened.” She stopped knitting for a moment but obviously didn’t see me or hear me. So, I felt if I shouted this would reach her. “Mum” I shouted, “look it’s me Tony”. There was no obvious sign that she had heard me, but two things did happen.

One was that I saw or realised that she had an upstairs side of her and a downstairs side. Her upstairs (conscious) side had no awareness of me, but her downstairs side (unconscious) gave me a wonderful welcome and I had the awareness of us knowing each other in a formless love. It felt like we blended together. Then at the same time my dog Vince must have heard me shout, because he woke, and came rushing to me where I stood behind our settee. He was so full of love for me he rushed around barking and showing his joy. I later heard from my mother that she had had been alone that night as my father was out, and she had seen the dog get up and bark and jump around behind the settee for no apparent reason.

I learned enormous and important lessons from that. I realised that having no physical body the living cannot usually see or hear us. They need physical sound to know we are present, yet another part of my mother knew and responded. So, I saw that if she had thought of me and spoken to me I would know, even though she might not be able to hear my reply – unless she was a medium or learned to be aware of thoughts. The reason being that is because in the body most people cannot communicate via thoughts. I also learnt that I had an inner life as real to me as the ordinary waking life. This inner life was a fusion of the bodiless awareness and the life of form we experience in the body. This was obvious because my sleeping body was dressed in pyjamas, and my body I knew in the experience was dressed in outdoor clothes. Also, it was not limited to space and time as the physical body is – shown by my sudden shift across miles to my home in London. Somehow it stood between two very different worlds of experience. I say that because although I was invisible to my mother, I was visible to my dog who had much finer awareness.

Other great lessons I learned that day was that according to popular teachings about out of the body experiences (OBE), I should have been connected by a ‘silver cord’ to my physical body. Also, it was said that the extended body was a copy of the physical. My projected body was in fact different, with different clothes, and in fact was an extension of how I thought of myself. In other words, I was in a world of thoughts, actually the dream world that we are usually 'asleep' in, and could in fact have been any shape. So, the experience of having a silver cord link is probably also a mental creation through anxiety of not being connected to their body, which most people identify as themselves. Quoted from http://dreamhawk.com/dream-encyclopedia/dimensions-of-human-experience/

Tony
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Dream Interpretation / Re: Airplane Dreams
« Last post by Tony Crisp on March 28, 2017, 01:36:44 PM »
Michy – Of course we have similar dreams – many, many grey dreams, and beyond count airplane dreams. And many of them I explored – not by thinking about them, but by stripping of and diving into them. You should try it by using http://dreamhawk.com/dream-encyclopedia/acting-on-your-dream/#BeingPerson

To understand what I am about to say, it is important to realise that we as humans, like other mammals, in our earliest years particularly, still learn like most mammals do, and that is not verbal at all. A massive amount of information is absorbed from our parents without words, any effort or awareness. An important aspect of this is that whatever of such information is held in the present generation, it is an accumulation of skills and responses learned over many generations, and is the fundamental survival strategies of that particular family or group line.

The greyness, and airplanes, when I explored them, where things that I had inherited from my father in particular, things I had no awareness of beforehand, but my dreams reported.

It was or is, a particular attitude or habitual response. And it sounds like you have picked this pessimistic attitude up from somewhere, probably early on.

Example: I am in a landscape and notice that everything is brown; the whole world is brown and lifeless. There is also a feeling of solemnity or dullness. I have enough lucidity to wonder why the world of my dream is so brown and dull. As I ask this I become more aware of what feeling the brownness expresses. It is seriousness - with no room for humour or fun. The feeling deepens, real enough and clear enough to look at and understand. I see it is my father’s attitude to life that I have unconsciously inherited. I realise how anxious he always felt about life, and how I took this in. That is how I became a ‘brown’ person. I see too that I do not need to be either brown or serious anymore.

Some helpful ways of dealing with the brownness - http://dreamhawk.com/dream-encyclopedia/habits/#Useful and http://dreamhawk.com/dream-encyclopedia/secrets-power-dreaming/

Tony
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General Discussion / Re: Resentment, hate and how to forgive
« Last post by Tony Crisp on March 28, 2017, 11:47:21 AM »
Miephenk – Some years ago, I had an experience that let me see – not thought – that everything has an equal opposite in our universe. This was a huge shock to me. The shock was that no idea, feeling or fear was in itself true, because the opposite was also true.

The awful thing for me was that I was in my second marriage, and felt love and commitment were very important, as of course they are. But what I saw as certainly as I knew myself, was that we live in a dual world, so everything opposite is also true. It was true that I was committed to my wife – it was also true that commitment was of no consequence. Everything matters – Nothing matters – Duality.

Anything said to you by your brother in law, from this point of view makes it seem like nonsense – as of course it is seen from any point of view. Especially as it was said by a Christian. See http://dreamhawk.com/approaches-to-being/martial-art-of-the-mind/

Tony
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Greetings / Re: I love dreams
« Last post by Mela Cooper on March 28, 2017, 04:59:19 AM »
Hello Patrick,

I agree with you completely - I would be so lost without my dreams also!

They have provided such a strong source of information for me that I wouldn't have seen (or seen it too late, or even refused to see) otherwise. Though I've had very significant dreams for some time, I just began keeping a dream journal for the past 2 years now. I love how it sheds light on a situation with honest raw truth, sometimes shown in surreal ways.

Dreams sure do know how to get your attention!!
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Greetings / Re: Hello
« Last post by Mela Cooper on March 28, 2017, 04:39:55 AM »
Hi Patrick!

 :D Sure - Always up for a chat!

Oh Yes - haha - I am a serious dreamer!  :D
Sometimes I wake up from my dreams so exhausted, I stay awake just to get some rest!!

It's been a while since I've visited England but enjoyed my stay there. I stayed in Bath for a month and also visited London.

Do you keep a dream journal?
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Dream Interpretation / Airplane Dreams
« Last post by Michy on March 27, 2017, 09:30:57 PM »
I don't normally pay attention to dreams until this moment: you know how dreams can be, scientifically speaking dreams come in packs but we only remember a few. This particular dream had a sort of uneasy/gray feeling. Like you want to run away but you don't want to. The best part is, planning to run away in case should be in an airplane ;D The story though, setting is somewhere home but does not resemble home. My family is there, and there was something that's bugging me but I reason it out with parents. Then I jumped to another setting: in a uni (college). The atmosphere never changed, sort of a grayish/bluish accent, and the feeling of fight/flight whenever i see that AIRPLANE in our backyard (emphasis on backyard). Anyone had similar dreams to this? Or Planes?  :-\
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Greetings / Greetings from the East :)
« Last post by Michy on March 27, 2017, 09:15:05 PM »
Hello pips! Out-of-body experience anyone? Please share? Thanks!  ;D
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Dream Interpretation / Re: Meaning of multiple dreams
« Last post by Tony Crisp on March 27, 2017, 08:40:33 AM »
Deering - Thank you for sharing.

A way that can work to pass beyond the difficulties you felt can be by using these - http://dreamhawk.com/approaches-to-being/lifes-little-secrets/ - http://dreamhawk.com/approaches-to-being/opening-to-life/ and maybe http://dreamhawk.com/approaches-to-being/the-lifestream/

Tony
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General Discussion / Resentment, hate and how to forgive
« Last post by Miephenk on March 26, 2017, 09:48:37 PM »
I love my 81 year old father.  I'm loyal and fiercely protective over him especially since my mother passed away in 2013.  I do a lot for him.  I am always the one to take him to doctor's appointments, purchase items he can't get at his local store.

I grew up with friction towards my half siblings (whom my mother took in from an orphanage upon marrying my dad, their biological mother having abandoned them) who were between 15 to 20 years old than me.  My mother was the glue of the family.  My father was never the father archetype.  I seeked paternal support but never got it.  My mother filled that role more, but also wasn't the typical mother archetype.  She was very stoic.

Six months after my mother passed away in 2013 I received a brutal, scathing character attack from one of my half-brothers. He dug very deep to tear me apart and to show what an awful person he believes I am.  He wanted to hurt me so much that even sent it to our father, to bring me down in his eyes.  My aunt who is a devout catholic was so shocked by the letter's contents that she exclaimed to my father "but he's a man of the cloth".  My half-brother is about 16 years older than me, he has his own daughter who is about ten years younger than me.

I never got on well with that half-brother, his wife or his two daughters.  My mother to whom I was very close would also challenge him at times.  They were very religious, something like born again Christians.  I was particularly not happy when my parents payed for my half-brother's daughter's accommodation at university.  I think the reason was because my parents never encourage their own children to go to university, citing financial reasons and I couldn't fathom how they could then support somebody else's.

I cannot believe that it is now over three years later since that letter was sent and drama ensued.  I saw my half brother last year for the first time and briefly while my dad was in hospital.  But I cannot stand him or his wife.  I am civil in their presence.  I still can't believe inside how awful he was.  And how he suffered no consequence. 
My twin brother did a bit to defend me and my father tried.  But I don't feel it was enough. 

Today my half brother, his wife, his two daughters and their boyfriend descended on our father's house.  I had intended to visit my dad.  I walked to my dad's house having thought they'd have left by the time I got there, but as I walked passed the house I saw they were still there all outside, but I just kept walking and when my dad shouted out I just said I'm going to visit my cousin and kept walking. I felt so emotional and tears rolled down my face.

I don't know why this all effects me so many years later.  I thought I had forgiven them (my half-brother and his family) but perhaps I haven't.  I'm so angry that I've allowed them to upset me all these years and cause this emotional pain.  I'm angry at myself that this still hurts me and that I've allowed them to crush me.  And I'm angry at my dad for not having done more.  The only thing my dad does is give money.  That is all he knows how to do.

I think the letter obviously did show some bad parts of me that are true and perhaps it's horrible realising that I do have mean parts.  I also know that everyone does.  I think I just can't believe to what lengths someone would go to to try hurt another person, to go to such lengths so deliberately with such intent whether the contents are true or not.

Being alone and single (of which my brother pointed out in his letter, look at all the boyfriends you've had ... when they get to know the real you they leave you) I feel so alone and so unsupported.  And I have to stand there an see him, his wife and his two children.  While I stand alone.  I think that's what is so hard for me.
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Dream Interpretation / Re: Meaning of multiple dreams
« Last post by Deering on March 26, 2017, 03:17:49 PM »
Tony,

Thank you so much for your interpretation. This makes since as I did experience troubles with my mother growing up. I also, had the question of who my father was growing up. I didn't  find out who it was until I was 17. I'm not sure why I never connected the two, but for a long time I did feel a sense of betrayal from my mother. I haven't always had the best relationship with her, for reasons I wont go into here, but I thought I had moved passed all of this. I suppose subconsciously I haven't, and possibly what my fear and cause of the dreams are just that. A fear that my son will have to go through some of the same things I did as a child. Tony, you are a genius and a true master of your craft, sir. Now, I suppose I need to find a way to move past this, for good this time.
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