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Dream Interpretation / Re: Hostage
« on: November 09, 2010, 11:22:31 AM »
Thank you Tony - that helps; it was a very powerful dream - it left me quite disturbed. What you say makes sense and is helpful.

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Dream Interpretation / Re: More cake without icing?
« on: November 09, 2010, 10:56:46 AM »
Thanks Tony. If I think about the relationship I have with both the dog and her owner, I guess it's this: even though they disrupt and make untidy my normal world, I like them to visit - I can be myself with them so I let the other things of my life be dishevelled by them because I enjoy them being here. They stopped coming when he got sick and I've missed them.

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Dream Interpretation / Hostage
« on: November 07, 2010, 01:40:26 PM »
I dreamt that I visited a house where a young, foreign artist was being held hostage by someone who was exploiting him. The house was like a squat - untidy, a matress on the floor, possessions scattered around. The man who was keeping the hostage captive was voilent and threatened him with exposing his illegal status.

In the dream I saw this but my response was to go away and get drunk; not to go to the police. I wandered the streets of a city in a drunken state, finally throwing up in a bin by a bus stop.

I sobered up and went back to the house to do something to help but it was empty; the hostage and captor were gone. The hostage's room was clean and tidy - the personal possessions were gone and the bed was made.

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Dream Interpretation / Re: More cake without icing?
« on: October 28, 2010, 11:37:46 AM »
Am still pondering about why doves would burrow in the earth - presuming this is about nurture and mother earth and finding succour and comfort there. God as the gardener is an old theme but at the same time myself as the gardener having accidentally cut half myself in half? The two doves could be two parts of me - or they could represent an external relationship - a pair of doves being associated with love.

Last night I dreamt I was staying at a hotel and ordered room service - a snack. I informed the two women that the young man (in his early twenties) had said he would bring the snack up to my room. (The young man in the dream is someone I know in the context that he works at my local gym). The women were amazed that he would deliver room service because he never did that. The inference was that I was special to him and/or there was a romantic interest (not so in real life).

In my room, I found some clothes belonging to the previous occupant; clearly a middle aged male businessman. Shoes and a pair of suit trousers, folded and on the floor with the shoes on top of them, as though ready to pack but forgotten. The young man arrived with my snack, he was nervous and held the plate at an angle and a scotch pancake covered in honey slid off and fell on the carpet, there was honey on the carpet. I said it didn't matter. I walked over to the clothes and shoe and told him that someone had left their clothes in room.

It feels as though this dream is saying something about me being on a journey of letting go of the tired, middle aged male aspect of myself and uniting with a younger, fitter, more vibrant maleness, maybe. There's also something erotic about the honey and it spilling onto the carpet. Honey as rich, sweet, indulgent, nutritious....
Yet, the clothes being left - trousers and shoes, very specifically. Someone has left but has left something of himself behind; hasn't truly gone. Like the end of a relationship where he's left bits of his possessions around so somehow still claiming space.

Except, in the dream I didn't know him - he was a stranger who left before I arrived. This could refer to my father; he left when I was a small baby and I never got to meet him. Of course, he still 'left something' in my life, part of himself in me - unfinished business, luggage, baggage. So I'm asking the nervous young man, with his overflowing honey, to deal with/sort out the debris left behind by my father.



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Dream Interpretation / Re: More cake without icing?
« on: October 26, 2010, 02:08:26 PM »
Thank you Tony - that is interesting!!! It did feel as though the dream had a level that was not simply about my personal, present situation but a wider significance in my role and pilgrimage. I will try your suggestion and let you know.

Just adding; there was definitely something significant about the woman being muslim - although I think she was of some sort of arabic descent. She had a traditional black headress, although not a face veil. I have a vague recollection of brown skin.

From my theology days; the ark contained the covenant (or promise) as symbolised by the tablets of stone - it is not the actual covenant; although later legend has embued it with more mystery. It could not be touched; it had to be carried on poles. It was the priestly Levites who carried the ark because of its holiness. There is a horrible story about the ark nearly toppling while it was being carried and a man reaching out to save it with his arm and being 'struck dead' for touching it. Women would not have been allowed near it - in hebrew law they were unclean. There are very precise design instructions in the Old Testament for the ark of the covnenant - as there are for Noah's Ark.

It is interesting that, knowing all this, in my dream it should be portrayed as a tiny container, held in the hands of a  (unclean) woman - and a muslim, arabic woman at that.

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Dream Interpretation / Re: More cake without icing?
« on: October 26, 2010, 10:16:41 AM »
So, two doves burrowing into the earth together while a gardener is working beside them???
When someone says to the gardener that he needs to be careful of the doves, he says, 'Yes I know - I once cut one in half with my spade because I hadn't seen it.'

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Dream Interpretation / Re: More cake without icing?
« on: October 25, 2010, 09:49:24 AM »
Thanks Christine - it's helpful to see your interpretation; it's hard to get a distance and different perspective on my own dreams. I suspect that there are loads of different angles in there and that all of them are right and bring something to the dream's wisdom - which is exciting.
I had a bizarre dream last night which i need to untangle and get in order - then if there's enough of it I remember, I'll share it in case it is related.

Editing to say that I couldn't remember very much. The only thing I can remember is walking around a town - a sort of western style town in the US; wooden structures and looking to buy a souvenir shirt. I try on a garish shirt with panels of different colour and patterns but I am wearing/buying it to please someone else.

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Dream Interpretation / Re: More cake without icing?
« on: October 23, 2010, 12:54:10 PM »
 ??? :( A quite bizarre dream about a muslim woman giving me a tiny container and explaining 'it's the ark of the covenant' and asking me to gather some ground spices from my table and fill it with them. This seemed to involve a long and protracted journey around some countryside and outwitting a couple of fundamentalist guerillas by being friendly and sparing with information.  

I would see the woman as someone who is intelligent and informed but constrained (possibly oppressed) by religious convention. The ark of the covenant holds the law; it is holy but not holistic. She asks me to 'spice it up' from my nourishing resources. The task of doing this, is complicated; to achieve it successfully, I must skirt around and outwit the fundamentalists who wish to remain in control.

An inner battle mirrorred in my outer life? Spiritually I am a radical; I tread spiritual landscape that is usually out of bounds to those in the mainstream church. I bring this richness to the table to offer but there will always be those who are threatened by my lack of orthodoxy.

In my inner life, well maybe this battle is about something different from religion; maybe it's about freeing my femininity and womanliness, against the backdrop of an oppressive (male) attitude - that I experience in waking but has in some way occupied a place in my own psyche - an area that I need to acknowledge, befriend and not allow to defeat me in my quest.

Or is that off beam, I wonder? I know these last two dreams are linked because of the themes of secretiveness and breaking rules - going 'out of bounds' in order to find what it is that nourishes me. In the dreams, I am prepared to be secretive, break the law and use trickery. Not traits that comes easily in waking life.

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Dream Interpretation / Re: More cake without icing?
« on: October 22, 2010, 03:16:52 PM »
Yes indeed. What is sad, is that choosing to believe ourselves to be smaller and less is often more palatable than reaching our potential which can be scary for some people.

I think it was Jung who said something along the lines of, 'We're all God but we've forgotten and when we die we remember'. Instead of the Divine being a foreign entity that 'does' stuff to us, we have the choice to accept that we are colaborators, co-operators with the Divine and that we can be and do this in the context of a joyful intimacy.

Thank you for allowing me to be part of this site - it is of great interest and blessing to me.

I have now found my dreams taking a similar but different angle. As though I'm searching for the way to move to less icing and more cake.

Last night I dreamt that I was trying to develop tasty and nutritious non alcoholic drinks. I was putting oats into one smoothie, I remember. The mix needed working on. Then I was outside a locked office and found a key - so I let myself in because I knew there was a recipe book inside. I found the book and the recipe I wanted and left the office, locking the door behind me.........I had a brief dilemma as I couldn't remember exactly where I'd found the key, in order to put it back, to hide that I'd been there. I guessed and placed it on a dado rail by the door and next to the photocopier.

oats, keys (sexual images?).......... but also recipes and nutritious drinks to feed me? Doing things in a hidden way? Finding the recipe in an office?

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Dream Interpretation / Re: More cake without icing?
« on: October 18, 2010, 10:13:45 AM »
Thanks Tony - that's beautiful! Itis incredible how the unconscious mind uses these symbols and images to communicate. I have felt for a while that the unconscious is our link with God - the means through which we can communicate with the Divine and that when we are awake, our brain interprets the communications into something that our 5 senses can understand.

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Dream Interpretation / Re: Other people's animals
« on: October 13, 2010, 09:28:43 AM »
Thanks Christine!

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Dream Interpretation / Re: Other people's animals
« on: October 12, 2010, 06:13:09 PM »
Thanks Christine - That is useful! The parked and the old stuff speaks to my current situation. Your comment about saying yes to the dog is very 'me' with animals.

I was wondering about the dream dictionary interpretation of dogs, too; the only just socialised bit of us. The dog is a bitch and it belongs to a friend, so I wonder whether it relates to him or me in the dream....or both of us!

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 :o Wow that photo is powerful in relation to this thread! Aren't they beautiful twins?! I suppose, given that there are two white grandparents, it isn't as remarkable as it first seems.

Very interesting entry, too, thanks Tony!!

Just editing to add that a social worker friend of mine says that the million to one statistic is baloney. She's come across quite a number of twins of mixed race families where the children took the genes of different family members.

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That's interesting! I suppose how we dream about colours in general and hair colour in particular could be a kind of code. There have been plenty of old images of heaven being a place where everyone walks around dressed in white and angels have, in white dominated western culture, been personified as having blonde hair.....even though you only knew him for the 9 months in the womb, he will always be a part of you.

So, in a way, this links in with what Christine says because you will be acutely aware of looking for what is lost; your brother and those parts of yourself that you want/need to find.


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I hope you don't mind me commenting; that's very powerful. I was just wondering; do you know if you might have been a twin but only you survived full term?
I'll be interested to see what Tony says!!
Hugs xx

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