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Dream Interpretation / Re: Blue Light

« on: April 22, 2022, 12:40:36 PM »

Dear Aristocrates - Remember again the dreams arose in creatures as long ago as twenty million years. So dreams began in creatures who knew no language such as ours and so maybe dreamt in deeply felt life events.

So it seems likely that your dream has arisen from a very different mindset than yours, and so the process of dreams gives you images that make some sense to you but are simply things that link with your own experience through associated ideas.

In trying to make sense of your amazing dream I believe it is about an aspect of your own nature th is trying to emerge - the distant bang - an explosive realisation  - that is so new that you will slowly come to realise in your waking consciousness. The blu light - well blue is usually associated with the sky, something that exist beyond you but the light is a way that we can start to see things that were previosuly hidden in darkness - that you were unconscious of.

Overall I see it as a dream saying you are still on the path pf personal growth. In the widest sense nearly all dreams act as a process of growth or a move toward maturing. Some dreams are very obviously presenting internal forces or dimensions of experience that might lead the conscious personality toward a greater balance and inclusiveness. In fact although it is not generally accepted, growth is a tremendous instinctive force as powerful as the sex drive. Although our overall direction of dreams is an attempt toward growth and wholeness.

This push is something we all experience but usually fail to understand. Each of us is immersed in a ‘river’ of constant change. If you think about it you have been carried, pushed, impelled by this current as you were moved through babyhood, childhood, teenage and adulthood. It is the current if Life. This current then carries us on through old and through gates of death. All the time we are faced by decisions, and each decision directs us on a different path, helping to create our future. And this force of growth and change.

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Dream Interpretation / Re: Mother To My Children

« on: April 02, 2022, 11:43:27 AM »

Thank you Corah and Jacqueline - I have almost giving up answering dream, so do not often watch them to give answers.

But I will give answers soon now because your contact with your father is important - dead dad's give so much to us if we listen. See https://dreamhawk.com/uncategorized/how-can-we-talk-to-the-dead-and-they-can-talk-with-us/

Tony

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Dream Interpretation / Re: Red and White AND Black and Brown

« on: April 02, 2022, 11:27:01 AM »

Romanov - Polar opposites are a feature of dreams because dream are the creation of a very different level of our awareness. Our everyday awareness is very influenced by being locked in three dimensional world and sensations. But dreams started in mammals at least 20 millions years ago, before language, intellectual thinking and normal human awareness. At the other end of our waking awareness is an ocean of consciousness that does not have a focussed sense of self. This ocean of consciousness that is at the core of your being is what has been called many names. At this level we are no longer limited to focussing on what we see, think and feel, but strange as it may seem, sees all thing have an opposite that is equally true.

So you first dream has in it the theme of undecidedness - your getting up and sitting. But you are swayed by your boss's ability to handle your swings.

The last one has the theme of passion shown by your red shirt, also shown by your awareness of the age difference. So I wonder if you are unaware of your interest in him as more than a boss, and of his movement to physically touch you.

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Questions about dreams / Re: Am I Healing or Lost?

« on: March 04, 2022, 11:59:26 AM »

3high3aim3 – I wonder if readers realise how much I constantly learn and even feel when reading dreams sent to the Forum. I often want to rush back to what I have previously written and add to and upgrade it. In fact I often feel I want to go through everything I have written and add the insights your dreams have given me - as if that were possible.

What I have learnt and your dream strengthens me in the learning is, dear wounded woman, that it is only the body that can be wounded, and if we accept or believe we are wounded, then our personality – we – are wounded too.

A revelation came to me when I experienced a real, not dreamt, out of the body experience, and realised that in my inner world I was beyond hurt. Also in many women’s dreams I see them claiming their inner wholeness as you are doing in your dream.

It is the business of recognising our dual nature, and usually we all get stuck in the recognition and belief that we are only a body. We forget our inner world. See http://dreamhawk.com/news/there-is-a-huge-change-happening/  - http://www.ted.com/talks/jill_bolte_taylor_s_powerful_stroke_of_insight.html - http://dreamhawk.com/body-and-mind/the-next-step-criticisms/ - https://dreamhawk.com/dream-dictionary/what-we-need-to-remember-about-us-3/#DualBeing

Tony

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Questions about dreams / Am I Healing or Lost?

« on: March 01, 2022, 12:29:46 PM »

I AM A WOMAN IN EARLY 40's
I am a woman, early 40's, who breastfed all 3 of my children, the youngest being almost 19 years old now. The infant boy in the dream was not one of my sons- he was a baby I was breastfeeding for someone else- not known to me. More than 10 years ago I was diagnosed with breast cancer and lost both of my breasts surgically, and then shortly after my uterus and ovaries to cancer, which put me in very early menopause.
In the dream I recognized the physical sensations as familiar- the same as those I experienced when I breastfed my children. But I had a sense of 'oh, how much I missed them' in regards to my breasts, so although I perceived I was physically feeling the sensations, I also knew these weren't my breasts, and the fullness I was feeling in my pelvis wasn't my uterus. But I wasn't disturbed by this - just aware and enjoying the sensations.

Also, recently I've been exploring and gaining a deeper awareness regarding my own schizoid wounding and childhood traumas, and have been working through relationship entanglements with my mother too. My energy healer has been focusing me on loving myself and 'grounding' into my body, and my therapist has been putting that same concept in more psychological terms- re-parenting myself. Although I initially, upon waking, had the impression the dream was about that- me nurturing myself, and letting go of some pent-up emotional energy around that, what Tony stated in the dream dictionary about breasts really resonated deeply with me: "Only in the fusion of infancy, or of sexual orgasm, or in religious ecstasy do we escape the psychic wound of division."

I'm open to what anyone might add to the insights of this peculiar dream. It's the first time I've consciously been aware of dreaming about breastfeeding, and the first time I had an orgasm in dream that wasn't prompted by a sexual encounter in the dream. I'm not sure if this dream was about me sorting out the issues with my mother, my own self-love and the intention I have regarding healing that part of me, the schizoid wounding stuff, or if it's all inter-related? Well, I know it's all related....I think what I'm trying to ask is, is there something more specific/precise this dream is speaking to me?

And Tony, if you're reading, I just want to say thank you for hosting this forum and for sharing, free of any monetary cost, your wisdom. I plan to spend some time reading through the material you have shared in the pages of your site.....

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Dream Interpretation / Mother To My Children

« on: January 29, 2022, 11:42:53 AM »

Hello Tony....my name is Noelle. I am Corah Simone's mother. I was very close to my father, he was my best friend in life. When he passed I was sitting with him and then...and for the next 10 years my whole world/ worlds broke open. I am the parent to three children but youngest Lewin saw my dad's spirit and communicated with him on a few occasions...it's as if the sky split in my world but not the people in it.....Corah and I have had similar dreams (sleep dreams) since she was around 3 years old. I always knew my dad was speaking through us....to us. He was a very very good astrological teacher and also a writer and musician...he is no doubt giving gift of his teachings right through Corah now....it's pretty amazing. I am married for 21 years to a Catholic man, with a Catholic family who does not see or enjoy these things....my husband is kind but is not aware of another side...he isn't threatened but his family is and it's been very painful for me n confusing for my kids...mostly my boys.

I now KNOW IT WS A LIFE LESSON that I see and learn in experiencing this family....however how I deal with it is very very different then 10 years ago. it's causing conflict. .....raising and being my children's mother has been a life path and joy for me ...but now I'm being catapulted elsewhere....so many downloads....so many nightmares. I am sorry to bother you.... I am reaching out to you as a friend and I would appreciate and enjoy some dialogue at a certain point in time...if you may. Thank you for listening.

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Dream Interpretation / Re: I was dead yet still alive

« on: January 29, 2022, 11:15:07 AM »

A very interesting example of the images dreams create to explain themselves. To perhaps understand what is occurring you must understand the creation of dreams.

You might ask why do dreams need to explain themselves? Well. dreams have been experienced for millions of years in animals, so as dreamers we are not the first to dream. Dreams started in animals that had no self awareness and not a language such as the one we try to communicate with. So dreams have their beginning in a level of awareness we have almost lost. I call that level of awareness the Core. See https://dreamhawk.com/dream-encyclopedia/summing-up/#Core

This core self is simply bodiless consciousness and to make itself understandable to our conscious word and image oriented self it uses images and scenes from our everyday life as an attempt to have us understand its Life created messages. Yes, LIFE, the very important thing that gives us life and awareness. See https://dreamhawk.com/body-and-mind/the-end-user/#Bodiless

So your dream is possibly saying that although there is death of the body there is no death for our consciousness. Of course because we have the enormous belief we are the body it is shown that your body is still alive, and you are conscious within it. See https://dreamhawk.com/interesting-people/i-died-but-im-alive-superminds/

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Dream Interpretation / I was dead yet still alive

« on: January 29, 2022, 10:34:37 AM »

Hello, reading your dream about being shot reminded me of a dream I had:  I was in an army and in my tent, presumably an officer as it was just for me, Jenny came in and shot me, I staggered (doing a Jimmy Cagney style effort), picked my rifle and shot her several times in the heart. The bullets going into the same hole. I can remember thinking, ‘That was good shooting’ and collapsed. I woke hearing sounds of the camp in the distance, stood up and looked around. There was a scrubby bush and two legs with boots on sticking out from underneath it. When I looked at them I realised it was my body and that I was dead. Then it switched to rolling green fields and I was walking along, hand in hand with Jenny.

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Dream Interpretation / Re: A WOW Dream

« on: January 17, 2022, 11:48:20 AM »

Lisa - I see that you have interiorised beliefs and attitudes that are true in the physical world but the dreams take place in another dimension where such beliefs or conditions do not apply. So it is not possible to comment on your dream until you really understand these interiorised beliefs.

To start with, whenever we dream its images are not like real life, because a dream is nothing like outer life where things could hurt you, but is like an image like on a cinema screen, so that even if a gun is pointed at you and fired it can do no damage – except if you run in fear; so, all the things that scare you are simply your own fears projected onto the screen of your sleeping mind. In the early days of moving pictures, a film was shown of a train coming fast toward them; the viewers all fled in terror, fearing the train would crush them. That is exactly the same response if you are terrified of any thing you dream of. See https://dreamhawk.com/dream-dictionary/masters-of-nightmares/

You cannot be killed in a dream. All you can experience is the anguish and perhaps fear of dying, but in dreams you cannot die – or drown, or burn or any other threatening thing. We make the mistake of taking our very real values from our outer life into our inner life of dreams.

The wolf you are scared of is again a projection of your fears - fears about being attacked by a power you feel you cannot deal with. To meet and understand the fear you could imagine yourself as the wolf and actually face the fears you have. See https://dreamhawk.com/dream-encyclopedia/acting-on-your-dream/#BeingPerson

Also - All the images, people, animals, places we see in our dreams, are simply your own feelings, fears, hopes and wonder projected onto the screen of your sleeping mind as images. So, it makes sense to take the image of your dream person, thing or animal back into you and own it. In that way, you are actually meeting and dealing with the things about yourself you are not owning or conscious of. That is why dreams are often difficult to understand, because we are hiding things from ourselves.

Okay, so you dream - The eagles. I don't know if you realise that many native people are certain that we are all part of one great Life, so any animal, person, tree or  river - anything is a living part of nature and us.
they are called by such people spirits. So you are blessed by the eagles being around you. Again you can know more about them  by BEING them. But very often they represent your ability to have an overall and protective awareness of your surroundings. Obviously you have developed this ability and are blessed.

The bear in a dream is as i said, different to one in the outside life. Obviously you feel it is a powerful force, and so sometimes is a symbol of either a protective or threatening mother figure.

Walking near a forest or creek: The images of rivers used in drama help us understand their symbolism. The river can be calm, in flood, or even dried up – representing our state of feeling about our energy, sexuality and emotions – the energy that as anxiety can cause illness, or as pleasure sustain health. Similarly, we can drown in the river – drown in despair – float on it – be carried along by prevailing feelings, or cross over, suggesting change or even death.

Each of us is immersed in a ‘river’ of constant change. If you think about it you have been carried, pushed, impelled by this current as you were moved through babyhood, childhood, teenage and adulthood, and there are more stages of growth beyond adulthood. And as we passed through these changes we died to our old self in order to change to the new. It is the current of Life. This current then carries us on through old age and through the gates of death. All the time we are faced by decisions, and each decision directs us on a different path, helping to create our future.

The river is a wonderful message in our dreams, not only does is  it represent constant change for wherever you stand, the flow of the river is constantly bringing the past to you, reminding you that you are the sum total of all you have lived – good or bad.

"The bear is calling for my help." So ask yourself what do you feel is needing to be looked after in your daily life? As for EVIL see again https://dreamhawk.com/dream-dictionary/masters-of-nightmares/ 

The strange thing is you cannot learn to be free of evil because you were born free of it with it as a central part of you. So trying to or struggling to learn it is ridiculous. It is a ridiculous as trying to become more spiritual or meditate to climb higher. The glaring truth is that we are creations of the immense  forces that created the universe. To try to better them is a huge folly. Our attempts to increase our spiritual nature are all produce by our conscious self that has lost touch with our Core.

R. D. Laing, the psychiatrist, in describing the search for one’s fundamental self said, ‘The Life I am trying to grasp is the me that is trying to grasp it.’

One of the sites listed has a heading, ‘What you are looking for is what is looking.’

This change is not a state of mind you can create or develop. It is something beyond any change, outside of anything you can develop. After all, development suggests change.

The frustrating thing about finding this is that the harder one tries to grasp it, the further away from it one gets. The more effort one makes in trying to achieve it, the less one finds of it.

It is the ever present, self existent core of yourself that remains when all else drops away. So the question should not be can I develop the state of mind that is sometimes called enlightenment, but how can I be this fundamental state?

“The Self is the Self and there is no such thing as realising it. For who is to realise what, and how, when all that exists is the Self and nothing but the Self.” Sri Ramana Maharshi 

We are often so immersed in our everyday view of our life it might be difficult at first to see what has been said.

The wolf is your own inner mammalian brain that has not been allowed healthy expression, so injured. See https://dreamhawk.com/dream-encyclopedia/brain-levels-and-dreams/#mammalbrain

The coyotes seem to e calling you at the edge of the forest, maybe calling you to  enter more fully in to your instinctive self which existed before you learnt to speak, and is still in touch  with your core self - see https://dreamhawk.com/dream-dictionary/core/

The bear is often a mother  symbol - protective but maybe also dangerous. I wonder what your relationship was with your mother #anyway it is shown as an instinctive feeling. See https://dreamhawk.com/dream-encyclopedia/instinct/

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Dream Interpretation / A WOW Dream

« on: January 15, 2022, 09:59:42 AM »

I have been having some very specific dreams since early last spring with several vague dreams and then manifested with the presence of two bald eagles that visited my property daily from May until September.  At first they only appeared early in the morning and then they were present anytime I walked outside.  It seemed that each time I walked the fence or the creek one or both eagles were always present circling directly over me and always flying just before me.  In late May as I walked with my granddaughter one eagle was flying very low around us, almost like it was trying to get us to stop walking.  We did stop to watch it and as soon as we stopped the eagle swooped down to the ground and a black bear walked across the path, stopping long enough to sniff the air and look at us.

Since then we continue to be graced by the presence of the eagle and the bear.  In the past several months I have been involved with trying to stop the proposed lithium mine and my attention has been focused with that.

However I have been continuing to have dreams that are consistently the same.  I am always walking near a creek or a forest, sometimes alone and sometimes with my granddaughter, but there is always an eagle flying overhead showing me which way to go, in my dreams the eagle speaks to me and tells me to follow it.  The eagle tells me that the bear is there to protect me but I must not get too close to it and I should never acknowledge where the bear is because it would be dangerous for me and the bear.  Always  in my dreams the eagle shows me the bear and I can never see the bear myself until the eagle shows me where to look.

This is also true in my awakened state.  I know the bear is here and I can see it’s tracks and teeth marks but I never see the bear unless the eagle is flying or the dogs bark at it or unless the bear crosses my path and chooses for me to see it.

In the most recent dreams there is a wolf that is stalking me.  In my dreams the eagle is urgently trying to get me to stop but the bear is calling for my help.  This is the first time that the eagle and the bear do not seem to be in perfect harmony.  But in my dreams I don’t really feel like the two are not still working together.  It’s more like the eagle’s main goal is protecting me but the bear desperately needs my help. The wolf injured her cub and she is calling for me to help her save her baby.  In these dreams I have a terrible time trying to walk through the forest and I loose sight of the eagle.  As I get closer to the bear (I can’t see her but I can hear her), I can feel that the wolf is closer to me.

In my last dream I found the bear cub and when I finally reached her she died but as she died she changed into an elderly Indian woman.  She told me I had done a brave and foolish thing by coming to help her because the wolf now would come for me.  But she said that I would never be alone because her family would always protect me and her friends would always guide me.  Then as she disappeared a wolf lunges at me but there is some kind of force around me that keeps it from being able to reach me.  But this only makes the wolf more angry and more determined to kill me.

Last night as I was pointing out stars to my granddaughter, the cows and dogs went into a panic.  When we looked at the forest line there was what I thought to be  a coyote standing at the tree line.  Several others appeared shortly, which I found a bit odd.  But then the largest one stepped forward and howled.  I must say that I have never heard a coyote make that howling sound in the 17 years I have lived here and been around coyotes.  I do believe that I saw wolves last night.

While this may not be relevant to my current dreams, I feel it may important to mention that this is not the first time that my dreams have crossed the sleep/wake cycles.  In 2014 I was terrorized by an evil spirit of unknown origins that attached to me and attempted to break my will and Spirit and visited me nightly threatening to “take” my family and my then unborn granddaughter.  Through my own spiritual journey I defeated the evil spirit and have banished it from my presence.  Though I am aware I did not destroy the spirit itself.  The day after I dreamed that God stood between me and the evil spirit with my granddaughter’s hand in His and my told me that I would forever be able to speak to my granddaughter with my thoughts no matter our distance, as I left my driveway for work I witnessed a small animal dead in the center of the road every few feet for half a mile from my house.  Feeling there was a clear message I turned my car around and drove back past my driveway in the opposite direction to find the same thing except that the animals were all torn apart so they were spilling their organs across the pavement and some were only missing their heads.  I live in a very rural area with very few human neighbors so finding dead animals is not uncommon.  However I have never experienced so many so close together nor have they been located in what seemed to be a very precise place.  This was when and why I am certain I was dealing with an evil spirit.  This display continued daily with new dead animals each morning for 3 days.  I also noticed that no other animals were feeding on the carcasses of these dead animals, not even the vultures or coyotes.  After that I only saw the occasional dead animal.

After that my granddaughter became known to me.  I saw her through a video before she was born.  The doctor who was filming the video dropped the camera in shock.  When I saw her on the screen I spoke her name and she turned her entire body around and smiled at the camera and looked like she waved to me.  We have not always lived in close proximity with each other until recently but we have always been exceptionally close.  She now chooses to live with us because she said she picked her parents before she was born because she already had lived a life with me and knew that I could help her and protect her.  We can indeed communicate without speaking though we don’t often even acknowledge that we are doing it.

Regards,
Lisa

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Dream Interpretation / Re: Aquarium Dream

« on: November 23, 2021, 01:57:54 PM »

Dear Miemoo - I feel you mistake somethings that happen in your dream. Time passes in life in the body which is usually changes that are always occurring in physical life. But dreams do not have the same concept of time except if you carry it with you inwardly.

I will try giving a different description of your dream. "I'm in the moment because in my dream I am never not in the moment unless I am interpreting it as if i am still in my body. See https://dreamhawk.com/dream-encyclopedia/dimensions-of-human-experience/

I become aware of the real me, the blue light is actually me projecting it outside of me as dreams do all the time. I become aware because my  awareness is shifting of a presence. This because i am just learning to allow my wider awareness of my dream self. This presence somehow only increases the joy and the magic as I move through watching the fish and stingray swim above me. The joy is passed on to me by the presence enfolding me. In dreams the person could be either a projection outward of a part pf me I have never been aware if before or an actual being holding me. He doesn't want to be known because he as a person in this realm is not important, because in this realm there is no separation, we are all one.

In this dimension of the universal we are in a wider awareness, in this wider awareness you leave the limited view of the three dimensional world most of us are trapped in, and enter a world beyond time and space. Some people remain so stuck in the view of themselves as they were in the three dimensional world of the body that the remain in the limitations of it. But many will begin to explore the life beyond limitations and see that they can know the lives of all their loved ones and share them, because if we do not identify with our body as US, we can go beyond our three dimensional world in sleep or death. When we realise this aspect of death, the way ahead of us is infinite in scope.

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Dream Interpretation / Re: Crystal dream

« on: November 23, 2021, 01:24:27 PM »

Well Mernel - Sorry I am so late in replying, i have been giving my attention in finishing a book.

You dream showa how many of us take the things we are to tale care to avoid because of danger and import the feelings into our dream life. The sea in dreams represents Life began in the sea, at the depths. Our blood is salt in the same degree as the ancient sea, and thus we have an inner sea. In your dreams it represents the universal and fundamental processes of life in you, nothing is dangerous and you cannot lose your belongings in your dream sea unless you inner wisdom wants to show you something.

For Whenever we dream its images are not like real life, because a dream is nothing like outer life where things could hurt you, but is like an image like on a cinema screen, so that even if a gun is pointed at you and fired it can do no damage – except if you run in fear; so, all the things that scare you are simply your own fears projected onto the screen of your sleeping mind. In the early days of moving pictures, a film was shown of a train coming fast toward them; the viewers all fled in terror, fearing the train would crush them. That is exactly the same response if you are terrified of or fear any thing you dream of.

The dream suggests you are going through a growth process which is leading you into the - a much more inclusive understanding of yourself and Life, an evolution. You were fighting letting go of things you feel you need - well maybe you do in  the outer physical world but not in the other dimension dreams take take place in. See https://dreamhawk.com/dream-encyclopedia/dimensions-of-human-experience/

In dreams you can breath under water - or no breath at all because you have no Real body in dreams and so do not need to breathe. When we sleep and dream we enter a completely different realm of experience than when we are awake. It would be foolish to try to breathe under water in the physical world, but in dreams this is not only possible but lots of dreamers do it. In dreams we can fly. We can make love to men or women as we please, without fear of social or physical consequences. While dreaming we can die over and over. The dead can be reborn, and the world around us can be changed simply by changing our attitude. A monster pursuing us one moment can in an instant become a warm friend because we changed our fear to love.

Example: I am in a cot and suddenly the bottom falls out and I find I am under water - I do not feel the wetness or the cold, I just know I am under water and must not breathe. I cannot hold my breath any longer and gasp for air - still under water - and am surprised I can breathe perfectly normally. Mrs. A. P.

You were trapped by your fears and so couldn't enter the enormous enlargement entering the sea could give you. So try it by imaging yourself back in the dream, drop all your fears and go into the sea - right in and under and let whatever arises play.

Explore a Dream Character or Object
Step Four of Peer Dreamwork – The dreamer next chooses one of the characters or images in the dream to explore. The character can be themselves as they appear in the dream, or any of the other people or things. It is important to realise that it does not matter if the character is someone known or not, or whether they are young or old. The character or thing needs to be treated as an aspect of their dream, and not as  if they were the living person or thing exterior to the dream. In choosing an image to work with, such as a tree,  cat, place, or an environment like the street or the sea as in the example dream, it must again be treated as it appears in the dream, not as it may appear in real life.  One can take any image from the dream to work with.

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Dream Interpretation / Re: Dark night of the soul

« on: November 23, 2021, 11:28:32 AM »

Mikey - I am so often 'not here' . Thank goodness Anna has such wonderful insights.

But my attention was caught by "Hi Tony,
I read a book by Douglas Harding a while back, on having no head, a zen look at the spiritual journey,
In it he talked about an "area called the barrier"

I have been so busy writing a summary of things learnt in 60 years of looking. A quote from what I wrote about this 'barrier'.

"There are many modern and ancient ways to arrive at a better life. I will give some details of them.

Many of the ways describe a process of personal growth that is possible for many today. Just as humans started their journey as an animal with no speech and no rational mind and moved on into what we know today as self-awareness; so we are ready to take another step in our evolution. This is sometimes seen as a release from suffering and is a growth in awareness as ahead of self-consciousness as self-consciousness is of primal animal consciousness.

To properly connect and realise what is being communicated it is necessary to be able to put one’s rational mind aside and able to enter a different level of ourselves. I call it The Keyboard Condition - https://dreamhawk.com/body-and-mind/the-keyboard-condition/

R. D. Laing, the psychiatrist, in describing the search for one’s fundamental self said, ‘The Life I am trying to grasp is the me that is trying to grasp it.’

One of the sites listed has a heading, ‘What you are looking for is what is looking.’

This change is not a state of mind you can create or develop. It is something beyond any change, outside of anything you can develop. After all, development suggests change.

The frustrating thing about finding this is that the harder one tries to grasp it, the further away from it one gets. The more effort one makes in trying to achieve it, the less one finds of it.

It is the ever present, self existent core of yourself that remains when all else drops away. So the question should not be can I develop the state of mind that is sometimes called enlightenment, but how can I realise this fundamental state?

A classic statement is, "Abandon all hope, ye who enter here." It can be seen as a warning, but it is given depth through the words of T. S Elliot:   
I said to my soul, be still and wait without hope 
For hope would be hope for the wrong thing; wait without love 
For love would be love of the wrong thing; there is yet faith 
But the faith and the love and the hope are all in the waiting. 
Wait without thought, for you are not ready for thought:
So, the darkness shall be the light, and the stillness the dancing. 

Some years ago, I tried to do as Eliot suggested; for weeks I gave up doing my daily yoga postures, the hours of meditation and sat without any expectations so I waited for the unknown. I felt that it was like waiting for a stranger to come and touch me on the shoulder as I stood outside the cinema at the top of Tottenham Court Road in London, then I would know them.

I waited like that for many weeks and then one night I had got out of bed to visit the toilet and was just getting back into bed when I heard a loud bodiless voice saying, “You asked how God touches the human soul, now watch closely.”  I had never before had such an experience and so I felt something important had occurred. I did not have to wait long because I was not touched – I was shaken!!!" 

To cut to the chase you can never know what you do no know - for in searching for yourself you are entering the unknown so you need to be able to put all your thinking and searching to sleep and watch without any preconceptions. Not easy but it can be done.

Tony

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General Discussion / Re: Near death experience

« on: October 17, 2021, 11:08:24 AM »

Mikey - Sorry about the long delay.

Long before my best friend Kevin died from chest and head cancer - he was a chain smoker - he had a dream that summed up the answer to your question.

‘An angel came to me and explained that before we are born we are all angels and are without limitations. When we are born we take on a life of limitations in order to learn something important to us. Then when we die at the end of that life we return to being an angel. All the limitations of life then disappear again.’

After the death of the body you are now fully in the dimension of the dream. As such you experience, as in dreams, surroundings and people and animals that appear as external and solid. You will usually see yourself in the body you experienced in the last life, but it may be younger without any illness, and you may feel as if you have woken for the first time because your mind, your awareness, is super alert. Also, sometimes, people who had never known that you survive after your body has died feel as if they are still alive in a body, and create dreams in which those people they know that are still alive in their body are visible to them, but because the living people cannot see or respond to them, which slowly leads the dead person to gradually realises a huge change has happened to them.

But here is another piece of information, it can be as simple as, As you sow so shall you reap.:

One morning my wife Brenda woke and told me she had dreamt about the baby of two of our friends. The friends, who I will call Jane and Bob, were living about 200 miles from us. We knew Jane was pregnant, and about a week or so before the dream we had received a short letter saying their baby, a boy, had been born. We didn’t have a telephone at the time, so the letter was our only means of communication.

In the dream Brenda saw the baby and a voice from behind her told her the child was ill. Its illness, she was given to understand, was serious, and would need to be treated with a drug taken every day of the child’s life. The reason for this illness and the drug use, she was told, was because in a past life the being now born as the baby had committed suicide using a drug.

I didn’t take the dream seriously, thinking it was some sort of personally symbolic dream. But we couldn’t seem to extract any personal meaning for Brenda, so just in case I sent an account of the dream to Jane and Bob. About a week later we had a letter from them saying that the letter and dream had crystallised their already existing anxiety about the baby. It had not been feeding well and was fretful. On taking it to the doctor nothing definite could be found but special tests were made in hospital. From these it was discovered the baby was dying. It lacked an enzyme that was needed to digest calcium. To compensate it was given a drug, which it has had to take every day of its life to make up for the lacking enzyme.

I don’t think there can be any clearer example than that, of the mind having some level of input other that information gathered through the physical senses and therefore what is already known in the brain. I use the example because it is not hearsay. It didn’t happen to somebody else who reported it to me. I witnessed every step of it. Recently I met the baby of that dream again. He is now a man of 35, and still needing the daily drug.

We cannot feel the awful things we may need to meet in dreams. See https://dreamhawk.com/dream-encyclopedia/karma-and-past-lives/ also we cannot develop new parts in the death world or the strength to face our painful mistakes. Whenever we dream its images are not like real life, because a dream is nothing like outer life where things could hurt you, but is like an image like on a cinema screen, so that even if a gun is pointed at you and fired it can do no damage – except if you run in fear; so, all the things that scare you are simply your own fears projected onto the screen of your sleeping mind. In the early days of moving pictures, a film was shown of a train coming fast toward them; the viewers all fled in terror, fearing the train would crush them. That is exactly the same response if you are terrified of any thing you dream of. See https://dreamhawk.com/body-and-mind/peoples-experiences-of-lifestream/

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General Discussion / Re: Realising How Stupid We Can Be

« on: October 17, 2021, 10:28:10 AM »

May’s dream shows how one does not necessarily have to interpret the symbols to find healing or understanding. The dream itself is clear enough to understand directly. Also the dream actually gives May the direct experience of what it feels like to forgive, to feel the warmth of love, and to look forward instead of back.  
 She had developed the habit from a year of psychotherapy, of looking within herself for answers, and expecting help from her dreams. So once more this is seen as important, although this is not the only factor involved in finding help and creativity in our dreams.   

If we are to turn the unused time of our sleep into greater productivity we need to understand just why most people do nor have problems solving dreams and their Genius remains asleep. See https://dreamhawk.com/dream-encyclopedia/genius-2/ - https://dreamhawk.com/approaches-to-being/opening-to-life/