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Dream Interpretation / Re: Crystal dream
« Last post by Tony Crisp on November 23, 2021, 01:24:27 PM »
Well Mernel - Sorry I am so late in replying, i have been giving my attention in finishing a book.

You dream showa how many of us take the things we are to tale care to avoid because of danger and import the feelings into our dream life. The sea in dreams represents Life began in the sea, at the depths. Our blood is salt in the same degree as the ancient sea, and thus we have an inner sea. In your dreams it represents the universal and fundamental processes of life in you, nothing is dangerous and you cannot lose your belongings in your dream sea unless you inner wisdom wants to show you something.

For Whenever we dream its images are not like real life, because a dream is nothing like outer life where things could hurt you, but is like an image like on a cinema screen, so that even if a gun is pointed at you and fired it can do no damage – except if you run in fear; so, all the things that scare you are simply your own fears projected onto the screen of your sleeping mind. In the early days of moving pictures, a film was shown of a train coming fast toward them; the viewers all fled in terror, fearing the train would crush them. That is exactly the same response if you are terrified of or fear any thing you dream of.

The dream suggests you are going through a growth process which is leading you into the - a much more inclusive understanding of yourself and Life, an evolution. You were fighting letting go of things you feel you need - well maybe you do in  the outer physical world but not in the other dimension dreams take take place in. See https://dreamhawk.com/dream-encyclopedia/dimensions-of-human-experience/

In dreams you can breath under water - or no breath at all because you have no Real body in dreams and so do not need to breathe. When we sleep and dream we enter a completely different realm of experience than when we are awake. It would be foolish to try to breathe under water in the physical world, but in dreams this is not only possible but lots of dreamers do it. In dreams we can fly. We can make love to men or women as we please, without fear of social or physical consequences. While dreaming we can die over and over. The dead can be reborn, and the world around us can be changed simply by changing our attitude. A monster pursuing us one moment can in an instant become a warm friend because we changed our fear to love.

Example: I am in a cot and suddenly the bottom falls out and I find I am under water - I do not feel the wetness or the cold, I just know I am under water and must not breathe. I cannot hold my breath any longer and gasp for air - still under water - and am surprised I can breathe perfectly normally. Mrs. A. P.

You were trapped by your fears and so couldn't enter the enormous enlargement entering the sea could give you. So try it by imaging yourself back in the dream, drop all your fears and go into the sea - right in and under and let whatever arises play.

Explore a Dream Character or Object
Step Four of Peer Dreamwork – The dreamer next chooses one of the characters or images in the dream to explore. The character can be themselves as they appear in the dream, or any of the other people or things. It is important to realise that it does not matter if the character is someone known or not, or whether they are young or old. The character or thing needs to be treated as an aspect of their dream, and not as  if they were the living person or thing exterior to the dream. In choosing an image to work with, such as a tree,  cat, place, or an environment like the street or the sea as in the example dream, it must again be treated as it appears in the dream, not as it may appear in real life.  One can take any image from the dream to work with.

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Dream Interpretation / Re: Dark night of the soul
« Last post by Tony Crisp on November 23, 2021, 11:28:32 AM »
Mikey - I am so often 'not here' . Thank goodness Anna has such wonderful insights.

But my attention was caught by "Hi Tony,
I read a book by Douglas Harding a while back, on having no head, a zen look at the spiritual journey,
In it he talked about an "area called the barrier"

I have been so busy writing a summary of things learnt in 60 years of looking. A quote from what I wrote about this 'barrier'.

"There are many modern and ancient ways to arrive at a better life. I will give some details of them.

Many of the ways describe a process of personal growth that is possible for many today. Just as humans started their journey as an animal with no speech and no rational mind and moved on into what we know today as self-awareness; so we are ready to take another step in our evolution. This is sometimes seen as a release from suffering and is a growth in awareness as ahead of self-consciousness as self-consciousness is of primal animal consciousness.

To properly connect and realise what is being communicated it is necessary to be able to put one’s rational mind aside and able to enter a different level of ourselves. I call it The Keyboard Condition - https://dreamhawk.com/body-and-mind/the-keyboard-condition/

R. D. Laing, the psychiatrist, in describing the search for one’s fundamental self said, ‘The Life I am trying to grasp is the me that is trying to grasp it.’

One of the sites listed has a heading, ‘What you are looking for is what is looking.’

This change is not a state of mind you can create or develop. It is something beyond any change, outside of anything you can develop. After all, development suggests change.

The frustrating thing about finding this is that the harder one tries to grasp it, the further away from it one gets. The more effort one makes in trying to achieve it, the less one finds of it.

It is the ever present, self existent core of yourself that remains when all else drops away. So the question should not be can I develop the state of mind that is sometimes called enlightenment, but how can I realise this fundamental state?

A classic statement is, "Abandon all hope, ye who enter here." It can be seen as a warning, but it is given depth through the words of T. S Elliot:   
I said to my soul, be still and wait without hope 
For hope would be hope for the wrong thing; wait without love 
For love would be love of the wrong thing; there is yet faith 
But the faith and the love and the hope are all in the waiting. 
Wait without thought, for you are not ready for thought:
So, the darkness shall be the light, and the stillness the dancing. 

Some years ago, I tried to do as Eliot suggested; for weeks I gave up doing my daily yoga postures, the hours of meditation and sat without any expectations so I waited for the unknown. I felt that it was like waiting for a stranger to come and touch me on the shoulder as I stood outside the cinema at the top of Tottenham Court Road in London, then I would know them.

I waited like that for many weeks and then one night I had got out of bed to visit the toilet and was just getting back into bed when I heard a loud bodiless voice saying, “You asked how God touches the human soul, now watch closely.”  I had never before had such an experience and so I felt something important had occurred. I did not have to wait long because I was not touched – I was shaken!!!" 

To cut to the chase you can never know what you do no know - for in searching for yourself you are entering the unknown so you need to be able to put all your thinking and searching to sleep and watch without any preconceptions. Not easy but it can be done.

Tony




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Dream Interpretation / Re: Dark night of the soul
« Last post by - anna - on November 17, 2021, 08:21:06 PM »

Thank you very much for your feedback Mikey  :)
It is helpful for me to know that what I see is correct on a very practical level, which is merely the only level
at which I can see in dreams.

As dreams have lots of levels simultaneously, I am sure there are more profound meanings to be found with a "greater"
message, but that would be something for Tony to see.

Apart from your sense of humour I like the symbol of building a boat;
it will help you leave the shore to find something new.

Take care  :)

Anna
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Dream Interpretation / Re: Dark night of the soul
« Last post by mikey on November 17, 2021, 04:00:35 PM »
Thank you Anna,
Interesting what you said,
I dont mind sharing this,I have had to bring up 3 girls,2 of which are twins,the youngest by 3 mins,got married in August this year,
That's all my girls flown the nest,
I have felt a sudden rush of redundancy,as most parents ,and just reached retirement too  ,got my dog Luna,just me and her now.
I think I will build a boat !
Regards mikey
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Dream Interpretation / Re: Dark night of the soul
« Last post by - anna - on November 16, 2021, 02:29:46 PM »

Hi Mikey 😊

What I see in your dream is your inner conflict that was part of the very difficult process of letting go emotionally of your (youngest?) daughter. 

It is the King archetype in you that enabled you to fulfill your role as a father to the fullest (a king who is shining like gold) AND to let go again of this role as you knew it (the daughter gets killed) in order to make place for different ways of relating to yourself and your child(ren). 

It IS a very noble and powerful process Mikey, as it is for the greater good of all involved! So having gone all the way you ARE a champion indeed!

Anna  :)

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Dream Interpretation / Dark night of the soul
« Last post by mikey on November 15, 2021, 07:54:48 PM »
Hi Tony,
I read a book by Douglas Harding a while back,on having no head,a zen look at the spiritual journey,
In it he talked about an area called the barrier,
Which is the experience  of feeling that all progress this far has been a waste of time,despite some great insights,
I find myself in this area now,if nog for some time,
The other night I had this dream,
A battle is being fought around a king who is shining like gold,to his right sits his daughter,who I am defending with all my strength,
Finally the shield protecting her is compromised,and she gets killed,despite my efforts.
The fighting stops,everything goes silent as everyone present stands and looks at the king,waiting,for some reaction,
He just sits there,I feel his nobility and power in that he was unmovable by any negative event,
I felt so moved by this,I step forward before him ,I kneel and stick my sword in the ground before him,
I say,my king,from this moment forth,I am your man,your champion,
After this,we are now in a helicopter like vehicle rising up,
The king is on my left piloting,the queen on my right,
I am in the middle,its now my job to take care of and keep a little dog safe by tucking it into my seatbelt.

I feel there is a great message in this dream,and somehow relates to the barrier I find myself up against,
Would love to hear any thoughts.
Regards mikey
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Dream Interpretation / Aquarium Dream
« Last post by miemoo on November 04, 2021, 12:53:06 PM »
I’m walking through an aquarium. I’m aware that I’m in a moment in time when what is coming through my senses is filling me with joy. It’s such a relief to be present in this moment - such a relief when life feels like this. The light shining through the glass is blue and shimmery and I’m so porous that it’s like I absorb it. I perceive a sparkle on my skin and around me.
I softly realise that the magic of the moment is not just within me - I become aware of an almost imperceptible presence like a whisper - I feel myself being perceived by something else. My interaction with this something is just to allow it to perceive me - I never turn back to try and see what or who this is. This presence somehow only increases the joy and the magic as I move through watching the fish and stingray swim above me. This just is for a long while - moving together but removed. Suddenly, a feel a whoosh and a body is up against my back, a face presses gently into the back of my neck and takes a big deep breath in. I stand still allowing this moment. I’m smiling. I realise I want to turn around and see what sees me. I want to see who. I want to interact. I turn around and see a man. I try to look into his eyes, he glances up briefly but looks away and I know from his body language that he doesn’t want to be known, that we won’t walk together. He steps back and I know that he only wants to see me from a distance. I look away, I don’t push. I know and understand that this was a moment in time. As I walk away, I feel a confusion rising as I try to make sense of the depth of the intimacy felt, the ecstasy from the physical sensation of his face so close to my body, the complete satisfaction in an act so simple feels like it could sustain me sexually and emotionally for a lifetime. I keep walking - not knowing what I should be hoping for, what I should be waiting for.
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Dream Interpretation / Crystal dream
« Last post by Mernel on October 25, 2021, 01:44:25 PM »
Hi Tony! I dreamed that my family and me were leaving somewhere I think some center near the sea.  And we put all our bags and things on the seashore then the sea came in and started to take everything away I was able to swim in the small sea area and get many of the stuff that had been lost. I kept losing my things. My father became very angry with my mother I think and they had an argument then my mother and me were stood on a shopping trolley or some kind of Cage in the water, the water seemed to end just as it was beginning to get deep and we were on the dry seabed the shopping trolley cage starting mechanically going down, we were in a kind of grotto or the beginning of a grotto from above and the trolley or cage was full of crystals I picked one up and it was amazingly beautiful it was pale green and fashioned into some kind of face I could clearly see some kind of marking in the shape of a diamond over the third eye on the forehead of the face. There was a payment slot like on a slot machine so people could buy or sell the crystals I felt guilty because I had not paid so I decided to put it back my mother said it was only one it would have been fine. There were so many of these intricately designed crystals (and they were as large as your hand) that they seemed common place. The was a man working down there and I told him we needed to go back up he sent us back up in the cage. Then we we laughing about our experience I remember seeing a large bird feeding in the water about the same size and shape as a Flamengo it was black with a white bill like a feathery beard. Then I woke up.   
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General Discussion / Re: Near death experience
« Last post by Tony Crisp on October 17, 2021, 11:08:24 AM »
Mikey - Sorry about the long delay.

Long before my best friend Kevin died from chest and head cancer - he was a chain smoker - he had a dream that summed up the answer to your question.

‘An angel came to me and explained that before we are born we are all angels and are without limitations. When we are born we take on a life of limitations in order to learn something important to us. Then when we die at the end of that life we return to being an angel. All the limitations of life then disappear again.’

After the death of the body you are now fully in the dimension of the dream. As such you experience, as in dreams, surroundings and people and animals that appear as external and solid. You will usually see yourself in the body you experienced in the last life, but it may be younger without any illness, and you may feel as if you have woken for the first time because your mind, your awareness, is super alert. Also, sometimes, people who had never known that you survive after your body has died feel as if they are still alive in a body, and create dreams in which those people they know that are still alive in their body are visible to them, but because the living people cannot see or respond to them, which slowly leads the dead person to gradually realises a huge change has happened to them.

But here is another piece of information, it can be as simple as, As you sow so shall you reap.:

One morning my wife Brenda woke and told me she had dreamt about the baby of two of our friends. The friends, who I will call Jane and Bob, were living about 200 miles from us. We knew Jane was pregnant, and about a week or so before the dream we had received a short letter saying their baby, a boy, had been born. We didn’t have a telephone at the time, so the letter was our only means of communication.

In the dream Brenda saw the baby and a voice from behind her told her the child was ill. Its illness, she was given to understand, was serious, and would need to be treated with a drug taken every day of the child’s life. The reason for this illness and the drug use, she was told, was because in a past life the being now born as the baby had committed suicide using a drug.

I didn’t take the dream seriously, thinking it was some sort of personally symbolic dream. But we couldn’t seem to extract any personal meaning for Brenda, so just in case I sent an account of the dream to Jane and Bob. About a week later we had a letter from them saying that the letter and dream had crystallised their already existing anxiety about the baby. It had not been feeding well and was fretful. On taking it to the doctor nothing definite could be found but special tests were made in hospital. From these it was discovered the baby was dying. It lacked an enzyme that was needed to digest calcium. To compensate it was given a drug, which it has had to take every day of its life to make up for the lacking enzyme.

I don’t think there can be any clearer example than that, of the mind having some level of input other that information gathered through the physical senses and therefore what is already known in the brain. I use the example because it is not hearsay. It didn’t happen to somebody else who reported it to me. I witnessed every step of it. Recently I met the baby of that dream again. He is now a man of 35, and still needing the daily drug.

We cannot feel the awful things we may need to meet in dreams. See https://dreamhawk.com/dream-encyclopedia/karma-and-past-lives/ also we cannot develop new parts in the death world or the strength to face our painful mistakes. Whenever we dream its images are not like real life, because a dream is nothing like outer life where things could hurt you, but is like an image like on a cinema screen, so that even if a gun is pointed at you and fired it can do no damage – except if you run in fear; so, all the things that scare you are simply your own fears projected onto the screen of your sleeping mind. In the early days of moving pictures, a film was shown of a train coming fast toward them; the viewers all fled in terror, fearing the train would crush them. That is exactly the same response if you are terrified of any thing you dream of. See https://dreamhawk.com/body-and-mind/peoples-experiences-of-lifestream/

T
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General Discussion / Re: Realising How Stupid We Can Be
« Last post by Tony Crisp on October 17, 2021, 10:28:10 AM »
May’s dream shows how one does not necessarily have to interpret the symbols to find healing or understanding. The dream itself is clear enough to understand directly. Also the dream actually gives May the direct experience of what it feels like to forgive, to feel the warmth of love, and to look forward instead of back.  
 She had developed the habit from a year of psychotherapy, of looking within herself for answers, and expecting help from her dreams. So once more this is seen as important, although this is not the only factor involved in finding help and creativity in our dreams.   

If we are to turn the unused time of our sleep into greater productivity we need to understand just why most people do nor have problems solving dreams and their Genius remains asleep. See https://dreamhawk.com/dream-encyclopedia/genius-2/ - https://dreamhawk.com/approaches-to-being/opening-to-life/  
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