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Dream character questions
« on: March 06, 2016, 10:44:14 AM »
A guy I feel really attracted to in real life appears in my dream:
First he is on the edge of a circle of people chatting and I think we'll never get to speak. Then he's suddenly sitting directly opposite me looking into my eyes and asks me 'when did you fall in love with nature?' 'Never' I say, 'I was always in love'

In a later part is of the dream a movie director I vaguely know appears:
He's standing in a muddy field on a grey wet day, surveying the scene probably for a shoot. He greets me as I approach and we are close to huge old trees. He asks 'Why do you do tarot and go to healers when the trees know everything?' I say that I know they do - 'I try to listen but I'm just not able to hear them' then I put my hand on the tree and feel it's energy and confirm I still can only feel energy and not get anything more. I say 'I use the tarot because at least it gets energy moving' then I walk through a spread that's lain out on the ground by the tree. (I don't really read tarot myself, though I have a fair understanding, I just watch some readers on YouTube)

Though we are outdoors, he has just lit two fires in fireplaces beside each other, on the left burning slabs of coal, on the right wood.

Then a vague sense of female characters arriving, dressed in black, not a friendly energy, self-absorbed and rather bitchy vibe from them. They go to a table to the left of the fires, chatting.  Shame as the fireplace imagery would have been a comforting point to end!
« Last Edit: March 06, 2016, 11:04:44 AM by Omega »

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Re: Dream character questions
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2016, 09:45:17 AM »
Omega – The first part of the dream is obviously centred around your love of nature – that is a very important point. It seems that it is that love which is an open door through which you can explore yourself, society, the world and the universe more fully. I believe it is because it has produced in you a state or condition of mind or soul through which you are able to sense more fully. It is certainly worth investigating.

The man in the dream is conjured in your dream because of your attraction to him, but he is also your inner male who communicates an important question or realisation. This carried on into the next section of dream, where the director represents your attempts to capture parts of yourself which you can then have an exterior view of. But he then asks another important question which links with the first one – why play at trying to interpret outside signs when you love puts you in touch with nature/the natural?

Maybe if you try developing the soul condition inside you of love for what you are – a part of nature with all its connections with all the life forms we share life with – you may go beyond sensing energy. Remember your body is more sensitive than a pendulum if you let it move as a dowser’s rod or pendulum does.

The coal and wood fires take you a step further – both are fuel created from living trees and plants. In a way they represent the fire of life that keeps your body warm, an amazing process. That fire of life also gives rise to body movements, sexual feelings, hunger, emotions and realisations and thoughts. In a way our thoughts and feelings, our living experience is constantly a part of that fire that burns. And wood is recent experience created by our growth, our daily living, but the coal is memories or experiences that were deeply buried but are being, or have been brought to the surface, perhaps to be burnt out and therefore cleansed. There is usually great wisdom in such coal and it needs to be unfolded from the symbol by exploring the feelings and ideas connected with the image. It emerges from very deep within you. It has produced something that is worth exploring from the past - female characters arriving, dressed in black, not a friendly energy, self-absorbed and rather bitchy vibe from them.

Run with it.

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Re: Dream character questions
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2016, 02:18:00 PM »
Thanks so much Tony!

..a few questions on what you said so I can fully make use of it.
How can I 'investigate' this state of mind/soul connected to nature?

Does being in touch with the natural versus outside signs - mean to draw information and insight directly from intuition?

How can I develop the soul condition?

Re the women in black attire - I've just remembered - they have been present in several dreams over the past year.
Usually mocking me when I need help or am in a life/death situation. Generally just hating me for no reason I can see, guess or understand.

I will work more on the images and see what comes,

Thanks again Tony.
« Last Edit: March 08, 2016, 10:18:04 AM by Omega »

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Re: Dream character questions
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2016, 11:12:08 AM »
Just a note. After writing this.. Like literally 30minutes, I was driving and saw a sign for an ancient site and decided to visit. While walking around this incredible place I wandered towards some trees. I had tried to deliberately 'connect' with other trees on the site..but it just felt forced, though they were really stunning old trees full of personality. But as I was walking in this other area I felt sudden love for a very ordinary looking tree 'hello grandfather' my mind said. ? don't kniw why. In that moment of love I was reminded of how I was as a child and for a brief moment all the trees were very definite beings with presence and feeling. It waned then, but that seemed to be a portal of communication. The one I used to know, through the heart. Not sure I can return to it. It's only when my life is happy I can feel this way. If only I could find a way to earn a living that didn't kill me.. and allowed me lots of time for nature, meditation, reflection..
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Re: Dream character questions
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2016, 12:16:36 PM »
Omega – I only sensed this is exploring your dream, but I feel it is about how you feel or felt as you said, “I was always in love” with nature. But you could change the sentence to, “I was always in love with Life”. The reason being that all nature is the manifestation of Life.

So a way might to be to sit quietly and say to yourself, “I have always been in love with nature/Life”. And repeat it allowing any change of feeling that might arise. I believe the art of it is to recognise the feeling and recreate it – hang on to it – and see where it leads. But I feel that the attitude, feeling or condition of mind, should be seen not as the answer but as a way to open the door to a wider awareness.

Once we realise that beliefs or convictions become realities for us – as explained in the feature Martial Art of the Mind – you realise what amazing and subtle beings we are. A belief can be a brick wall built in our mind that blocks us from any further advance in our thinking and actions, and an attitude or a stance of our soul can be an open door to a completely new world of experience.

Often when I feel shut off from getting any insights into a person dream I imagine that I am living in the small place of my ordinary mind/consciousness. Then I imagine that I open the door that I have used so often and beyond it is everything and everyone, all creation. It is only a trick of the mind but it works often.

Question two: Intuition is only a word, and it depends what you associate with the word. What we touch is normal to us but we have been taught or learned to build bricks walls stopping us experiencing what is natural to us. There shouldn’t be any versus in it. When you look at a person walking along a street, and it reminds you of a memory that you intensely feel, the switching from an outside impression an internal sense isn’t versus in to the other, it is a natural function of being human. So stop thinking that it is something out of the ordinary – for that is another brick wall.

Your consciousness is much more than we are taught. It is a magnificent web stretching from the very material substance to dimensions we are capable of entering. The story of the goose drawn in the circle is an illustration of this. As the goose is drawn on paper it is a creature of two dimension and the circle drawn around it is impassable. But if the goose now has three dimension it can walk over the line easily. So what would it be capable of being or doing if it entered the fourth dimension?

The black garbed women are obviously an important feature of your dreams, so why not explore them using http://dreamhawk.com/dream-encyclopedia/acting-on-your-dream/#BeingPerson – or have a dialogue with them, often a very interesting experience - http://dreamhawk.com/dream-encyclopedia/dialogue-with-a-dream-character-or-object/

Tony
PS I only just saw the other entry.

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Re: Dream character questions
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2016, 10:31:51 PM »
Lots there for me to absorb thankyou Tony! I will pull out first what hit me most deeply ....
"I was always in love” with nature. But you could change the sentence to, “I was always in love with Life”. The reason being that all nature is the manifestation of Life."  This is a very profound connection! To see nature as a manifestation of life.. to consider I may be in love with life...  :o that's actually a leap for me..


Ok.. I forced myself to do some dialogue with those women.. For what it's worth - This is what I got:

Women: we are anger and hate we hate most things, but most of all we hate you.

Me: why do you hate me?
Women: we hate your innocence. We hate your hope. We hate your good nature.
Me: what do you want?
Women: we want to kill you..
Me: well why haven't you killed me already then?
Women: sometimes we doubt ourselves. And you are too easy to kill, where is the fun in that? You suffering is so much better. Your pain makes us happy in the only way we know how to feel happy..
Me: What will you do if I grow in power and stop suffering?
Women: We will find someone else
Me: but if, like I am told, you are a part of me, what part are you?
Women: we are ancestors who chose cruelty as a way of protecting ourselves from pain. We hate life. Our lives were abuse, horror, death, famine, rape. By not dying, we at least do not yield to our own annihilation..

Edit: so I did that before sleeping.. I didn't like exploring these women at all.

Then in the middle of the night I woke up gripped in fear, a horrible cold sinister fear...

I had been dreaming. I was young. An older lady was leaving me alone in a house. She was wealthy, possibly was my mother. The room I was in was huge, very luxurious. She was horrible, clearly hated me, but she didn't hit or scold me, just a general sense of loathing from her. I'm about 9 years old. When she left I tried to lock myself in a closet to keep safe, that didn't close properly, then I went around locking the doors. I turned off the lights. I went to the window then to close the blinds and people passing by jogging at night screamed when they saw me at the window. The worst thing was the feeling in the room, a hostile, very frightening sinister energy. When I woke that feeling was still with me and I had to work really hard with my conscious mind telling myself 'I'm protected, this is a dream, I'm safe I'm protected' because that same cold sinister hostility seemed to fill the bedroom of my waking reality..   I would say it took me ten minutes or more on waking, repeating that, to shake the energy..
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