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Dream where "I love you" is written in blood
« on: April 12, 2016, 07:49:31 PM »
I had a dream where I was looking at a wall that was covered in blood (as if the wall was painted) and "I love you" was written in it.  I didn't see anyone in the dream, but I knew that it was written by someone that I was in a relationship with and we got separated without warning.  That person appears to be moving on since we have no contact.  I keep having dreams where that person communicates with me and says they love me and to wait, or that I actually get to see that person.  I don't know if I'm projecting what I actually want, meaning I want them to love me still, or if somehow that's a message of how they actually feel.  This person and I were connected on a soul level and could often read each others thoughts and "feel" the other person.  Thoughts about the "I love you" being written on the blood covered wall.

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Re: Dream where "I love you" is written in blood
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2016, 11:05:05 AM »
Ameans – A very beautiful and deep dream that can be seen at least in two ways. The usual one is to see it as about a physical partner that is there for you to find. Another more likely view is to see it as the you that you lost without warning – the being that will make you whole and let you know what real love is.

Traditions from the past and our own dreams if explored, show that we inhabit a body which is polarised as one expression of gender – male or female. But the ‘we’ that experiences life in a body is a whole being, female and male. Being in a body leads us to long for wholeness which we feel we do not have, and so long for a partner of the opposite sex to feel whole. But of course it is only an illusion of wholeness and has to be sought again and again by having sex. But that is natures or the instinctive way to procreation. See http://dreamhawk.com/dream-encyclopedia/archetype-of-the-anima-jungs-view-of-the-female-in-the-male/

This search for wholeness in many cases. Sets up a bloody conflict between the sense of being in a body and the longing for the real love of wholeness. Look around you at the bloody mess that comes for such deep longing for a partner -  amount of ex’s you see, even in those who have ‘everything’.

One of the great and often self-defeating identifications is that with our body. If we accept that dreams portray in images our conception of self, then dreams suggest that our identity largely depends upon having a body, its gender, health, quality, skin colour, the social position we are born into, and our relationship with others. In fact, we know that if a person loses their legs, becomes paralysed, loses childbearing ability, becomes blind or is made redundant, they face an identity crisis. Yet despite all of that they still exist as a person, and if we realise that early we can avoid all the pain and distress caused by a complete identification with our body.

But let us explore this question of what you identify with a little further. Maybe you identify with the way you feel, your emotions, or perhaps your thoughts.  But from one moment to the next these are not the same.  They are constantly shifting and moving, and undergo more variation than your body.  If you identify with your thoughts and emotions, you can become lost in their swirling and shifting storm.  Believing you are your thoughts or emotions can be at the root of depression and confusion.

But let us explore this question of what you identify with a little further. Maybe you identify with the way you feel, your emotions, or perhaps your thoughts.  But from one moment to the next these are not the same.  They are constantly shifting and moving, and undergo more variation than your body.  If you identify with your thoughts and emotions you can become lost in their swirling and shifting storm.  Believing you are your thoughts or emotions can be at the root of depression and confusion.

Losing an arm or leg, losing your physical beauty in age, may affect your thoughts and feelings, but those things do not in any way deplete your sense of existing.  So if your body, your thoughts and emotions are not YOU, then what or who are you?  What is it you can most securely identify with?  What is it that is not shifting and changing and capable of being lost?

The question or who and what you are is an ancient one. It has been used in meditations techniques for thousands of years. If I asked you the question, "Who are you?" you might reply with your name, what you work at, or what you have succeeded in. So you might say you are an athlete, a doctor, a good lover, a burglar, a football captain; or you might say you are a life form, a human animal, a biological enigma - but the answers are all only descriptions of things you have read, studied or felt. They are not descriptions of YOU. In fact it is very difficult to answer the question because the answer is not an intellectual statement. We have a body, emotions, thoughts and life working in us and what is life? People have spent months, weeks or days pursuing that question, and those who satisfied themselves experienced what is commonly called enlightenment - a realisation that was not in words but was an experience of their wholeness. The answer is your wholeness.

An exploration of dreams shows an answer. It is easy to see that while you are convinced that your real identity is your body; while you are convinced that your emotions and thoughts are your only reality, you are incredibly vulnerable to uncertainties, fears, dashed hopes, feelings of failure, the emptiness of success and painful betrayals. These can toss you around like a scrap of paper in a gale. They can be the stress that is at the root of illness. Discovering yourself as anchored beyond change is enormously healing.

To find yourself anchored beyond change you need to have an awareness of your core self. to do this we have to first realise how we create our identity. We build our identity and our sense of self out of the language we are taught, being an individual body, a sexual creature and the many interactions with other people and the world. In a real sense we create each other by believing in and communicating with each other. With prolonged absence of other people and events, and especially if we lose our ‘noises’ and body awareness, we feel we – our sense of identity – is disappearing or dying. People immersed in a sensory deprivation tank begin to lose a clear sense of themselves, and it can result in anxiety, hallucinations and depression.

We are most of our life seeing only the small things of our life, what we see, hear, fear, feel or think. We are so lost in the littleness we forget the bigness. The famous physicist David Bohm who contributed innovative and unorthodox ideas to quantum theory, philosophy of mind, and neuropsychology defines this problem by saying that there are two orders in our experience of the world around us. There is the “explicate” order and the “implicate” order of the universe. He defines the explicate order as the impressions of the world gained via our senses and the interpretations the brain places on these impressions. These impressions and the brain’s interpretations - based on millions of years of evolutionary experience and input - lead to a view that we each have separate minds in isolated bodies.

The implicate order is the universe as it is when we move beyond the limitations of the senses and the brain’s limited evolutionary programs. Then we begin to see the universe as a single indivisible whole, and ourselves as intricately part of that whole. Bohm says that ‘if we don’t see this it’s because we are blinding ourselves to it.’ He goes on to say that ‘If we don’t establish these absolute boundaries between minds, then it’s possible they could unite as one mind.’

These ideas suggest that we live most of our life in a dual sense of the universe. The first is a small sense of ourself as just a body and person; the second is a realisation of ourselves as an integral part of immensity, a bodiless existence - the universe. This is born out when we use some techniques that shift our sense of self.

 Example: After going over my body several times in dropping tension I suddenly lost my right arm. I had no sensation of it other than space, hugeness. Then I lost my left arm, and – my whole body. It was like falling through a trap-door into the stars. I had no sense of having a body. Thoughts had ceased, except for a murmur apparently a thousand miles away. Yet in blackness, in immensity, in absence of thought I existed vitally as bodiless awareness. We think that we are our body because we have no other experience of our existence. So we identify with our body and so are terrified of dying – which in a sense is what we do every time we go to sleep and leave our sense of a body behind.

Tony

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Re: Dream where "I love you" is written in blood
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2016, 04:18:58 AM »
Thank you for the information.  It's a lot to process.  Am I understanding you correct that the dream does not have anything to do with the person that I am no longer with?  I'm sure it doesn't make a difference, but there was a large age gap and it was also same-sex.

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Re: Dream where "I love you" is written in blood
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2016, 06:48:03 AM »
I am seeing the I love you as a message from you to yourself.  You are your own love, passion and energy for yourself.  Maybe that is something that is trying to connect with you via the message.

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Re: Dream where "I love you" is written in blood
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2016, 09:16:01 AM »
Ameans - I got carried away answering - but as Christine says - it is all you.

But a little help may be gained - but you left out vital information about the same sex. Many people do not realise that they have an inner woman equally as powerful as an external woman. You have taken in millions of bit of memory, lessons learnt, life experiences along with all the feelings or problems met by loving or living with the girl or woman, and they are what makes you the person you are. The memories and experience we gather unconsciously change us and are not lost. It is part of you and is symbolised in dreams as a person or event. Such an inner woman can appear in dreams because you are still deeply influenced by what you hold within you.

Tony