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Near death experience
« on: July 29, 2021, 10:51:52 AM »
Hi Tony
I've been reading about, and watching on you tube, a lot of testimonies from people who have had so called near death experiences, most of which in one way or another contain the experience of intense all loving light, also they all recall,  seeing, feeling, hearing  ,all on a level that seems to be more real than this physical world, while these experiences as wonderful as they are, and no doubt life changing for the experiencer, I find myself a little perplexed,

If our consciousness, our spirit if you like, can see, hear, feel, smell etc., why is there a need for a physical body, why don't we all just float around like ghosts with the 5 senses, is our idea of consciousness actually an illusion.

From what I understand, the only difference between, the conscious out of body experience and the actual physical world is the experience of physical pain, as most of the NDE participants have said, that returning to their bodies in some cases was excruciatingly painful because of the injuries they sustained, but while separated from their bodies they felt no physical pain.

It's an interesting subject that has got my mind stirring,
I find myself asking ,not who am I, but what am i
 Would welcome any thoughts,

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Re: Near death experience
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2021, 11:08:24 AM »
Mikey - Sorry about the long delay.

Long before my best friend Kevin died from chest and head cancer - he was a chain smoker - he had a dream that summed up the answer to your question.

‘An angel came to me and explained that before we are born we are all angels and are without limitations. When we are born we take on a life of limitations in order to learn something important to us. Then when we die at the end of that life we return to being an angel. All the limitations of life then disappear again.’

After the death of the body you are now fully in the dimension of the dream. As such you experience, as in dreams, surroundings and people and animals that appear as external and solid. You will usually see yourself in the body you experienced in the last life, but it may be younger without any illness, and you may feel as if you have woken for the first time because your mind, your awareness, is super alert. Also, sometimes, people who had never known that you survive after your body has died feel as if they are still alive in a body, and create dreams in which those people they know that are still alive in their body are visible to them, but because the living people cannot see or respond to them, which slowly leads the dead person to gradually realises a huge change has happened to them.

But here is another piece of information, it can be as simple as, As you sow so shall you reap.:

One morning my wife Brenda woke and told me she had dreamt about the baby of two of our friends. The friends, who I will call Jane and Bob, were living about 200 miles from us. We knew Jane was pregnant, and about a week or so before the dream we had received a short letter saying their baby, a boy, had been born. We didn’t have a telephone at the time, so the letter was our only means of communication.

In the dream Brenda saw the baby and a voice from behind her told her the child was ill. Its illness, she was given to understand, was serious, and would need to be treated with a drug taken every day of the child’s life. The reason for this illness and the drug use, she was told, was because in a past life the being now born as the baby had committed suicide using a drug.

I didn’t take the dream seriously, thinking it was some sort of personally symbolic dream. But we couldn’t seem to extract any personal meaning for Brenda, so just in case I sent an account of the dream to Jane and Bob. About a week later we had a letter from them saying that the letter and dream had crystallised their already existing anxiety about the baby. It had not been feeding well and was fretful. On taking it to the doctor nothing definite could be found but special tests were made in hospital. From these it was discovered the baby was dying. It lacked an enzyme that was needed to digest calcium. To compensate it was given a drug, which it has had to take every day of its life to make up for the lacking enzyme.

I don’t think there can be any clearer example than that, of the mind having some level of input other that information gathered through the physical senses and therefore what is already known in the brain. I use the example because it is not hearsay. It didn’t happen to somebody else who reported it to me. I witnessed every step of it. Recently I met the baby of that dream again. He is now a man of 35, and still needing the daily drug.

We cannot feel the awful things we may need to meet in dreams. See https://dreamhawk.com/dream-encyclopedia/karma-and-past-lives/ also we cannot develop new parts in the death world or the strength to face our painful mistakes. Whenever we dream its images are not like real life, because a dream is nothing like outer life where things could hurt you, but is like an image like on a cinema screen, so that even if a gun is pointed at you and fired it can do no damage – except if you run in fear; so, all the things that scare you are simply your own fears projected onto the screen of your sleeping mind. In the early days of moving pictures, a film was shown of a train coming fast toward them; the viewers all fled in terror, fearing the train would crush them. That is exactly the same response if you are terrified of any thing you dream of. See https://dreamhawk.com/body-and-mind/peoples-experiences-of-lifestream/