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lukeandersen1

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Switching bodies with a girl?
« on: January 05, 2012, 04:37:42 PM »
This dream was inside of a mall. I usually dont like places like malls for various reasons. I was with a girl that I have known for about a year and every time i would try and talk to her she wouldnt give me the right opportunity to say anything important. She hasn't seemed very intelligent about her surrounding and what this world really is and she dresses all nice only knowing this physical world. This bugged me so now I really dont even talk to her, but my dreams have been bothering me and i cant tell if they are saying to talk to her or something else.

Alright so we were in a mall and for some reason we switched bodies and i went into a lingerie store to mess around because i was now physically a girl, my mind was still mine though. The lady from the store came up to me and said that would look good on you. So I started to put on different clothes she got me. It was worth mentioning that when i was putting on the top i had no breasts as if i were my normal self again, it seems i changed back into myself as i was doing this and didnt think much of it. I went back out after i got dressed in strange clothing and she was on her cell phone. "I said why are you always texting this is pointless why dont you talk to someone your actually with!?" This frustrated me and made me through it on the ground. The rest of the dream is gone from my mind. Usually I can tell what this means but I have no idea why we switched bodies and why i dressed in girl clothes. I am by no means homosexual I love girls.

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Re: Switching bodies with a girl?
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2012, 04:57:31 PM »
Interesting dream dear. I am attempting a reply which you may find reassuring. You had this dream because you desperately wanted this girl to know, to realize- how she should behave properly as a girl. This thought must have been bugging you so much that your subconscious mind wanted to relieve you of this thought- so that even if you cant chide her in real life, you can vent out your emotions through a dream. I appreciate your values which seem to be disappearing from this world nowadays. Try to find a better friend, one who thinks like you, otherwise life will be filled with disappointments. HAPPY NEW YEAR.

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Re: Switching bodies with a girl?
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2012, 04:58:50 PM »
Deepa, your interpretation i already kind of stated in the description so it was useless. But never the less thanks for trying. I can already interpret my dreams much better then any of you think and I know there is hidden symbolism inside this that neither of you know and that Tony would have a much better understanding of what is happening here. I didn't understand the parts of clothes that confused me. The whole phone thing was obvious, "i am pissed because she wont even listen".... Thanks

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Re: Switching bodies with a girl?
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2012, 11:00:13 AM »
Luke – I think we have to start with the basics again here – even though this is an important dream.

Sorry if you have heard this before – but it is not simply for you.

Dreams are a magical mirror in which your innermost hopes, longings, fears/terrors and genius are made real. They are made real as external environments, people, animals and relationships. It is as if all your deepest feelings, hopes, fear and wonder are projected outward onto a multidimensional screen. It is a world of virtual reality that you feel is real. Unfortunately this wonderful virtual reality world is usually felt as dealing with other people, as externals, like something that can damage us, or something like the Devil that can possess us. But the greatest truth I have found in exploring dreams – not interpreting them – is that we are alone with ourselves in the world of our dream.

So the girl is your own feelings about the way you relate to her. And the mall, I am guessing is a state of mind you do not like to be in – possibly to do with commercialism.

But there is the big thing, you change bodies. You took it for granted, yet it is a wonderful gift to shape shift. Unfortunately it is often taken as a statement of something else, but it is about our ability in dreams to be anything and anywhere. I looked through all your dreams you sent again and I see you have a good background to it. But I wonder if you realise that in dreams our awareness is everywhere beyond time and space, but our preoccupations keep us usually in symbols and dream drama.

If the girl and her concentration elsewhere is an expression of an aspect of you, why the frustration with the means of communication – the cell phone?

The body shift was probably because you were exploring that part of you. But as I have said before, you can find out for yourself by doing it while awake. I have found that by imagining my myself in the body of a dream character, then switching to what I associate as me, and going backwards and forwards between them and watching what shifts of feeling and emotion I feel it becomes obvious. See http://dreamhawk.com/dream-encyclopedia/acting-in-your-dream/ or even http://dreamhawk.com/dream-encyclopedia/active-imagination-and-dreams/

But it is about some form of frustration to do with communication and the feminine side of yourself.

Tony

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« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2012, 11:09:31 PM »
So Your as to say that what I remember each time of a dream is just a simple focus and that i rather am in a much larger "place" then it even seems to me? I understand this but at the same time realize that exploring the other zones come with time and patients. It's hard because you know there are so many worlds out there in your dreams to explore and i wish i could get myself to reach to places I have once traveled across.

It is a deeming task Tony, reaching these places can be an unknown feat and I have yet to know how to reach certain places multiple times while actually trying to. As I speak about my conscious mind actually seeing what is going on is the symbolism correct? Yet my sub conscious mind is almost infinite in its redistribution of every single thing you have touched, felt, seen, etc. These being the only senses that are viable enough for you're conscious mind to understand.

Tell me Tony is the dream world all connected and that exploring certain parts can be accessed instantly? For example if you were in one part of this world could you instantly go to the other side of it? I know the dream world isn't like a world but must I take a certain journey, or path to this place I try to reach?

Also how each scene in your dreams will they be repeated or does your mind reach differently every time. So you could pick off of where you even started your dream last time. I have a feeling that your mind recreates not because of the simple fact your "going back" to the same place but rather your mind has changed and is changing all the time.

So as I see it all these parts of this world are me and essentially how I see people in my dreams is how I really see them in what some would call "reality". I knew I was posting something weak in this dream the emotions were just bugging me too much and I wanted a answer without even thinking of what the answer was when I already have it.

In every dream no one can interpret it correctly because it wasn't meant for them. Rather we our self's must seek the truth and be open minded to our self's about it.

I have one last question tony, in this space of dream world are we really exploring this space rapidly and so fast in fact we don't remember however many things in this sequence. So we only catch on to certain things, such as I have had lucid dreaming but it seems that my conscious mind is still there and has come into contact with my sub conscious and the conscious cant understand the illusion of time in this world so it goes at a pace we understand?

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Re: Switching bodies with a girl?
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2012, 01:37:02 PM »
Luke – I suppose I am only pointing out possibilities. Even that is difficult because dreams usually deal with what is shown happening in the unconscious – see http://dreamhawk.com/dream-encyclopedia/the-unconscious/

So any insight we might get from a dream is a bit like looking at the inner world of a seed. We could see it has potential to grow into a tree or a flower, and we could see that its growth is dependent on its environment. So in dreams we can see our own potential and the environment it has been planted in. We can see the things that stand in the way of that potential, usually called traumatic life events, attitudes, ideas and beliefs, and our own standpoint.

But all of us have infinite potential. It is only the things that stand in the way – as I explained in the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNZVV4Ciccg – it takes work to remove the things that stand in the way of or potential.

So I am saying that it takes time, because what we glimpse in still emerging to rise above the soil – to consciousness.

The dream world has the potential to be in all places at once. So do we if only we could express it. In the right condition I can reach to any part of the dream world – but although I have travelled far a and wide in the inner world, usually in waking lucid dreams. I have spelt it out in the Introduction to Eye of Dreams:

“Throughout more than five decades I have been involved in a personal search for the secrets of mind and spirit. In those years I have also taught thousands of people techniques of deep relaxation, meditation, and methods of self exploration. Wanting to dig deep I explored the use of dreams and taught individuals and groups of people how to use these visions of the night to discover and heal the deepest issues in themselves, and to touch the high ground of their spiritual awareness. I worked for twenty years as a psychotherapist using several approaches, one of which was a way of honouring the body as a doorway to the unconscious mind, the emotions and spiritual experience.

During the forty years of seeking the wild wondrous beasts of the mind and spirit I dared my own inner adventure. But I also travelled with other people as an ordinary person, not a therapist, sharing their experience of fear and wonder as they unveiled and set loose their fountain of perception. I have travelled countless dream pathways, traversed the timeless with those using awareness enhancing drugs, and wrestled with the vitality of the body as people mimed and shouted their deepest intuitions through movement, dance and voice.

The journeys, alone or with others, led into realms of experience that comparatively few people know exist. They are realms in which the world, our life and preoccupations, are seen from completely new perspectives. In those realms we move beyond thoughts and conjectures, interpretations and dialogue, into the jungle and mountain peaks of the direct experience of what was previously unknown to us – into passions, torrents of energy, oceans of awareness, castles of ancient defence and aggression, into the river of time. They are realms of experience that are incredibly creative, containing treasures equally as fascinating as any tomb of Tutankhamen.”

However, like Blake Elk who said that when he was young he could call thunder and pouring rain, but now as he is old, all that happens is ‘a scant chill rain and muttering thunder without lightening.’ As I get older what I have seen and experienced still lives in me, and yet what I now experience is like a drizzling rain.

Except in dreams that are recurring you tend to experience different things each time, even though the themes are the same. We are wonderfully creative.

“In every dream no one can interpret it correctly because it wasn't meant for them. Rather we our self's must seek the truth and be open minded to our self's about it.” Exactly! A dream is an expression of Life, which has deep, deep, rivers of feeling beyond the thinking mind. Usually we only think about our dreams.
I suggest using a partner if it is possible, this give tremendous power to the effort to explore. See http://dreamhawk.com/dream-encyclopedia/peer-dream-group/

The last question is difficult to answer. But I have noticed again and again that while in the waking dream state for a long time, things are incredible presented in sequence. When LSD was used for psychotherapy it was found that over many session one thing was worked on at a time – spontaneously. And when that was dealt with it would move on to the next in line. And it appeared that the next thing appeared because the previous had cleared the way. (LSD Psychotherapy by W. V. Caldwell).

Tony