Native American Dream Beliefs

The Headings Are:

Dreams as guidance in life

Sacred Fasting

Dream and visions

Healing Experiences

A Failed Initiation

Dream doorway to wider awareness

Tribal Elders

See also The Iroquoin Dream Cult

In considering the beliefs of the Native American peoples, there is not a single belief system. Each tribe developed their own relationship with their inner life as it connected with and contributed to their external environment and needs. In looking at the fairly pure statements of traditional Amerindians in such books as Black Elk Speaks, and Ishi, it is fairly obvious however that dreams were generally considered as a form of reality or information to be highly regarded. Black Elk became a revered medicine man of his tribe through the initiatory process of his dreams and their revelation. His dreams revealed rituals to be performed by the tribe which aided in healing social tensions. But these deeply perceptive social or psychological insights into his own people which arose in his dreams, are only one of many facets the Native American peoples found in their dream life. And of course Black Elk is only one of the men and women of the Native American people who were visionaries.

Dreams as guidance in life

Ishi explains how his dream of what turned out to be the coming of the railroad and the train, was central to his whole life and its tragedy. Nevertheless his dreams warned him of the presaging deadly events for his tribe, and helped him find strength to meet what came about.

As already pointed out, personal initiation was one of the most fundamental of the facets. Individuals, through prayer, fasting and lonely vigils, sought from their dreams, a vision of their destiny as an individual, and an image to aid a personal link with the Spirit pervading all life. With such a dream the young man or woman could feel themselves to be a real part of their group and their environment. But even this cannot be taken as a generalisation. R.F. Benedict reported in The Vision In Plains Culture (American Anthropologist Vol. 24 1922) that among the Arapahoe, the Gros Ventre and in all the Western Plains peoples north and south, puberty fasting for a vision did not occur.

Nevertheless, although details varied as to when and how such dreams were sought, the visionary dream was held as sacred. Sometimes the ways of seeking these visions were very quiet, as when retiring to ones lodge, and sometimes very drastic, when braves suspended themselves from poles on hooks.

Sacred fasting

Fasting has been used as a spiritual discipline by many past cultures, but it has not been really understood. For fasting is not primarily a form of personal cleansing or a self punishment for ones ‘sins’  but a way of learning to become a real human being who is no longer the slave of their animal appetites. For otherwise we are all addicts – addicts to eating too much or too little; addicts to wanting to be important; addicts to sex; addicts to power, money and ego, even to killing or maiming others – and many other things.

“When I fasted for 14 days without any food, just water, I slowly discovered what real quietness was. My energy for turbid emotions, for sexual activity, for thinking and trying to think things out, just faded away. They were all aspects not of my central self or spirit – which I discovered was a quiet awreness – but of my bodys animals desires.” See Ox Herding – Victim – Avoiding Being My Own 

When I fasted I was about ten years old, that being the age at which grandparents generally desire their grandchildren to fast. My parents never bothered me at all about fasting, and I don’t suppose I should have fasted at all if I hadn’t a grandparent at that time.

About the middle of the little bear month, that is, February, my grandmother came to my house to fetch me. I did not know what she wanted of me. After two days she told me why she had come. So the next morning I received very little to eat and drink. At noon I didn’t get anything to eat at all, and at night I only got a bit of bread and water.

There were about seven of us fasting at the same time. All day we would play together, watching each other lest anyone eat during the day. We were to keep this up for ten days. However, at the end of the fifth day I became so hungry that, after my grandmother had gone to sleep, I got up and had a good meal. In the morning, she found out that I had eaten during the night and I had to start all over again. This time I was very careful to keep the fast, for I didn’t want to begin on another ten days.

After a while, they built me a little wigwam. It was standing on four poles and about three to four feet from the ground. This was my sleeping-place. My little wigwam was built quite a distance from the house, under an oak tree. I don’t know whether it was the custom to have the young boy fast under a particular tree or not. I believe the wigwam was built in the most convenient place for the old folks to watch it during the day.

The first morning my grandmother told me not to accept the first one that came, for there are many spirits who will try to deceive you, and if one accepts their blessings he will surely be led on to destruction.

The first four nights I slept very soundly and did not dream of anything. On the fifth night, however, I dreamt that a large bird came to me. It was very beautiful and promised me many things. However, I made up my mind not to accept the gift of the first one who appeared. So I refused, and when it disappeared from view, I saw that it was only a chickadee.

The next morning, when my grandmother came to visit me I told her that a chickadee had appeared in my dream and that it had offered me many things. She assured me that the chickadee had deceived many people who had been led to accept this offering.

Then a few nights passed and I did not dream of anything. On the eighth night, another big bird appeared to me and I determined to accept its gift, for I was tired of waiting and of being confined in my little fasting wigwam. In my dream of this bird, he took me far to the north where everything was covered with ice. There I saw many of the same kind of birds. Some were very old. They offered me long life and immunity from disease. It was quite a different blessing from that which the chickadee had offered, so I accepted. Then the bird who had come after me, brought me to my fasting wigwam again. When he left me, he told me to watch him before he was out of sight. I did so and saw that he was a white loon.

In the morning when my grandmother came to me, I told her of my experience with the white loons and she was very happy about it, for the white loons are supposed to bless very few people. Since then, I have been called White Loon.

Not only did White Loon gain his name from his dream, and therefore his adult identity, and whatever respect gained by it from his family and tribe, but he also gained the image of himself as living into old age and having freedom from disease. These are very precious gifts no matter what period of history we consider, or what ‘tribe’. In a modern city, thousands live without any satisfying sense of connection with, or feeling they are respected by, their ‘tribe’. Many live under constant fear of serious illness or early death, and businesses are built catering to such fears.

The Pueblo Indians

Jung, writing about a meeting with some Pueblo Indians in the USA, explains that their religion rests upon the belief that through their frequent ritual, they help the sun to rise each day. Without their tribal attention to the sun, they are sure the sun will no longer rise. “This idea,” Jung explains, “absurd to us, that a ritual act can magically affect the sun is, upon closer examination, no less irrational but far more familiar to us than might at first be assumed. Our Christian religion – like every other incidentally – is permeated by the idea that special acts or a special kind of action can influence God – for example through certain rites or by prayer, or by a morality pleasing to the divinity.

The point Jung makes overall however is that through their beliefs the Pueblo Indians as a group of people, have an intense peace and satisfaction with their life. This deep peace and inner happiness is seldom shared by more ‘rational’ modern communities. I am not trying to argue for irrationality, but the comparison does, I believe, highlight something that arose from the Amerindian beliefs and use of dreams for guidance and spiritual sustenance. Namely how a belief system, no matter if it is irrational, acts as a psychic immune system against the ‘germs’ of despair, inferiority and meaninglessness.

This pride and sense of belonging that was often a marked feature of such tribal peoples prior to the coming of the white races, illustrates one of the main functions of the dreaming process – the psychological compensation or self-regulatory process – and how it acts on the personality if it is deeply accepted. Because the native peoples of America had such trust in the products of their unconscious in dreams and visions, the compensatory images presented were of great benefit, and fulfilled their task of keeping the balance in the individualised identity. Unfortunately the rational attitudes of the invading nationalities, questioning the power of the dream and vision as they did, offered nothing to take the place of the dream. At least, nothing that produced such an obvious sense of pride and tribal and personal identity.

Something that becomes apparent in looking at dreams such as White Loon’s is that the cultural attitudes and beliefs White Loon was educated in dominate the content of his dreams. The coming of the chickadee in early dreams was an accepted part of the vision fast, and can be found in many other such dreams of people in his culture while fasting. When an Indian became a Christian, through exposure to a different set of cultural ideas, his or her dream content changed radically. Nevertheless, many dreams were of a personal psychological nature also, showing the individual relationships with the culture and their own inner life. Even though White Loon’s dream of the birds is very deeply cultural, it is interesting that birds often have the same sort of significance in modern dreams. It was out of this sort of observation that Jung developed his theory of the archetypes and the collective unconscious.

Dream and visions

Something else that is apparent in comparing the visions experienced by native Americans with those of present day individuals – perhaps those using LSD or experiencing visions due to stress such as illness – is that the native Americans entered their visions with some understanding of what to expect and how to deal with the experience. Our own cultural attitudes frequently put us at odds with our own unconscious processes and visionary upsurge. Many people who are confronted by the opening of the unconscious and the events that follow, believe they are going mad, or that they will be overpowered by forces that are antagonistic to them, and will sweep them to their doom. Neither do many people, trained in modern Western ideals of behaviour, know how to exist in the land of vision. Just as few desert people know how to swim, and would feel fear if dropped into deep water, so the person who falls into an altered state of consciousness from the world of modern materialistic thinking, may feel great fear instead of pleasure and the ability to ‘swim’ in it. Even the many people who ‘interpret’ their dreams, have seldom moved beyond the level of thinking, and know nothing through experience of the deep waters of the unconscious. See: abreaction; active imagination.

Like other primitive cultures, dreams were seen by the Amerindians as having certain marked features that could be gained from them. There could be an initiatory dream such as we have already considered. There could also be dreams telling where to hunt; dreams showing a new ritual giving some sort of power such as warding off illness, or finding a new relationship with everyday life, or attracting a lover; dreams could show the use of a herb for medicine; dreams might be caused by some sort of evil within ones body, or an external evil such as someone wishing you harm or an evil spirit; there could be a shared dream with another person; the dream might be a revelation from someone who was dead and now in the spirit world; or a dream, as in the third example below, could be a map supporting and guiding the dreamer throughout their whole life. Dreams were often considered to be bad or good. If a dream were considered bad something had to be done about it, such as a cleansing or healing ritual.

As an example of an Indians attitudes to dreams, this statement of White Hair, a medicine man, is interesting. “Every dream that takes place is certain to happen. Whenever the evil spirits influence it, it is certain to happen. Whenever we dream a bad dream we get a medicine man to perform sing and say prayers which will banish the spirit.”

The following description by a medicine man explains how he had a dream showing him a new medicine. He says, “I saw a dog that had been shot through the neck and kidneys. I felt sorry for the dog and carried him home and took care of him. I slept with the dog beside me. While there I had a bad dream. The dream changed and the dog became a man. It spoke to me and said, ‘Now I will give you some roots for medicine and show you how to use them. Whenever you see someone who is ill and feel sorry for him, use this medicine and he will be well.’ One of these medicines is good for sore throat.”

The following is a fasting dream/vision recorded by Father Lalemont, a Jesuit priest working among the Indians.

At the age of about sixteen a youth went alone to a place where he fasted for sixteen days. At the end of this time he suddenly heard a voice in the sky saying, “Take care of this man and let him end his fast.” Then he saw an old man of great beauty come down from the sky. The old man came to him, and looking at him kindly said, “Have courage, I will take care of your life. It is a fortunate thing for you to have taken me for your master. None of the demons who haunt these countries will have any power to harm you. One day you will see your own hair as white as mine. You will have four children, the first two and last will be males, and the third will be a girl. After that your wife will hold the relation of a sister to you.” As he finished speaking the old man offered him a raw piece of human flesh to eat. When the boy turned his head away in horror, the old man then offered him a piece of bear’s fat, saying, “Eat this then.” After eating it, the old man disappeared, but came again at crucial periods in the person’s life. At manhood he did have four children as described. After his fourth, “a certain infirmity compelled him to continence” He also lived to old age, thus having white hair, and as the eating of the bear fat symbolised, became a gifted hunter with second sight for finding game. The man himself felt that had he eaten the human flesh in the vision, he would have been a warrior instead of a hunter.

Such dreams as the above, about the use of a herbal root for medicine, show how many herbal treatments, not only among the Amerindians, but from tribal people throughout the world, came about. In fact many tribes attributed the origins of many of their cultural artefacts, their religion, the use of fire, to a specific dream experienced by a past tribal member.

Because of the great many Amerindian tribes, and their different dream beliefs, it is impossible to summarise the views of life, death and human origins arising from their dreams and visions. The following description of the beliefs of the Naskapi Indians is so pure and simple however, that it probably holds in it many of the beliefs of other tribes. It is taken from Man And His Symbols by Carl Jung, published by Aldus Books, 1964. It is from the section on The Process Of Individuation by Marie L. Von Franz.

Healing Experiences

Frank Takes Gun, national president of the Native American Church, says: At fourteen, I first used Father Peyote. This was on the Crow Reservation in Montana, and I was proud to know that my people had a medicine that was God-powerful. Listen to me, peyote does have many amazing powers. I have seen a blind boy regain his sight from taking it. Indians with ailments that hospital doctors couldn’t cure have become healthy again after a peyote prayer meeting. Once a Crow boy was to have his infected leg cut off by reservation doctors. After a peyote ceremony, it grew well again.

This may be considered only exuberant witch-doctor talk, but reliable observers have confirmed that these economically deprived peoples are in better-than average health and that when they do become sick and turn to peyote, the drug seems to help them. Louise Spindler, an anthropologist who worked among the Menomonee tribe, said that the women “peyotists” often kept a can of ground peyote for brewing into tea. They used it in “an informal fashion for such things as childbirth, ear-aches, or for inspiration for beadwork patterns.”

Dr. Peck also made such an observation and, in fact, first became interested in LSD as a result of having seen the effects of peyote: When I went into general practice as a country doctor in Texas, I was very impressed that some of our Latin American patients, despite their poverty and living conditions, were extremely healthy. One day, I asked one of my patients how he stayed so healthy, and he told me that he chewed peyote buttons then, I became interested in these drugs that could promise physical as well as mental health.

A Failed Initiation

It is great to find a personal account of Native American initiation in the modern world. But here it is as reported.

The inward journey does not always turn out this way. The following account (published in Psychiatry, February 1949) of the phantasy of a Chippewa Indian woman of 34 living in Northern Wisconsin, furnishes an interesting comparison. It presents the con­trast of a widely different background, both of personality and environment. It brings in the same characteristic symbolism. And it shows how such an experience can remain unrealised.

‘The third time I went through the Midewiwin (the Chippewa Medicine Dance), I went through because I had a vision that I should do that. We were living out in the woods at that time. Everything was still and quiet there. I was lying on a bed. I got to thinking of things I’d done way back in my younger days. I thought about my relatives and my friends, my parents who were dead and gone. I had no one to call upon except for my old man.

I lay still, and my mind was working all the time. Then I said out loud, so that I could be heard: “What is there that I didn’t do right? Everything that I can remember I thought I did right. What is wrong with me that I have so many visions of different things and different people?” All that summer I had had visions of people and things. I said aloud again, “Maybe the Almighty has mercy on people who see all these visions.

Here, most authentically, is the first stage: the feeling that ‘there is something wrong about us as we naturally stand’. The way of develop­ment now lies open. As William James puts it: ‘The individual, so far as he suffers from his wrongness and criticises it, is to that extent consciously beyond it, and in at least possible touch with something higher, if anything higher exist.’

‘Then I had a vision that I was walking along a narrow trail through the brush-no tall trees. It was a beautiful day. No wind. Plenty of sunshine. I walked along this trail for about an hour until I heard the sound of tinkling bells in the distance. As I came nearer to the sound, I saw four men sitting around something that was round. Above their heads was something across the sky like a rain­bow. One of these men called me his grandchild. He said, “You are supposed to tell the people once in a while when you are in trouble about something you know, something that’s in you. Let them know what’s in you. Don’t pay any attention if people laugh at you. If they do, they’re not throwing jokes at you; they’re throwing jokes at themselves.” One real old white-haired man sat at the far end of that round thing. He pointed to his snow-white hair. He told me that my hair would be just like his some day, if I did what I was told. “We are the ones that asked you to come here, because you are in trouble and don’t know which way to turn. There are four things that I want you to remember-North, East, South and West. On all of these four there sits a man who waits and wants to receive your tobacco. You have a name that you bear, which means a great deal to me. Your name means a whole lot. As you go along, you’ll realise this. Your thinking power is working real hard. It will get you somewhere, if you listen to it.”

Here is the mandala symbolism, as in the vision of the sword and the cross-the four old men sitting around something that is round. The woman is told there is something she knows, something in her, that she should tell people. She is, at the same time, given her orient­ation-four things to remember, North, East, South and West. And she is reminded of her name.

‘Then another real old man     spoke. “It’s been a long time since you thought of your grandfather. I like to receive your tobacco once in a while too. I’m the one that suggested to this man the name that you are called by. Don’t be afraid of me because I’m big. I will tell you what you are supposed to do once in a while. You are supposed to put out food, like meat and corn, and put some tobacco into the fire or on the ground when I go by. You do your own speaking (i.e. to the spirits). Nobody else needs to do it. I am the one who will listen.”

Then I said, “Oh, I’m the one who made a mistake. I never thought that I would ever make such a big mistake. Sometimes when I think of the things I’ve done, I thought I’d done them right; but I didn’t.”‘

As later transpires, the mistake was that the woman gave no tobacco to the people she was named after, i.e. did not adequately realise the name, and consequently did not find her true being-again as in the sword and cross vision.

‘Me said, “Sometimes we see you in this certain kind of dance. You are holding the precious flag (the feather flag held by the person who addresses the spirits). That flag belongs to us. Before you speak or do anything, offer some tobacco. If you have no tobacco, you have to give the price for your tobacco.” That’s just what I do now. If I can’t speak, I have somebody speak for me.

Then I went on from this place along the trail a little ways. I bear and see some more. This man has his finger up in the air. He’s talking. He’s from the South. This is a different man. There’s a thing about four feet high-just a stick sticking in the ground. The man takes the stick and hands it to me. “If you lean on this stick,” he said, “you’ll use two of them later on, as you go along the road, if you do just what I tell you. (To ‘walk with two sticks’ is synonymous with long life). Go to your great adviser (the old priest to whom she is married) and tell him what you have seen.”‘

Mere is good counsel. The chief difficulty in all experience the other side of consciousness is adequate realisation. If the woman tells her ‘great adviser’, there is a better chance of holding the experience and bringing it into life.

“As I was corning back along this trail, I saw a great big snake about this big around (six inches). He raised his head about this high (four feet) from the ground. “Don’t be afraid of me,” he said. “Just go back and tell your adviser what you have seen. If you don’t you won’t be able to walk.” Then he pointed and said, “Look over there.” I looked and saw myself lying flat on my back. Then the snake said, “But if you do what I tell you and tell all that you know, everything will be all right. I want to come into that place (her home). I like that place. It makes no difference how it looks. I’m coming there just the same. I’ll go along now.” Then I walked back home along the trail. That was all. Then I made preparations for going through the Midewiwin.’

This is the encounter with the snake, the embodiment of the unconscious; and again the good counsel for realisation-’ tell your adviser.

‘One afternoon, after I’d made all of my preparations for join­ing the Midewiwin again, I was all alone at home. The door was open about four inches. I looked at the door and saw this person coming in. I felt kind of scared. He was an unexpected visitor. He came in a few feet and said, “I have come at last.” He looked around, turned over on his side and ,made himself at home. Then he spoke to me: “If you take care of me like you should, I will do a lot of things for you, because I am the one that suggested all this to you. When you start, have the prettiest dress you’ve got. I know that I am welcome here. Don’t be afraid of me, because I have come a long ways to see you.” That’s all he said. Then he became a snake and went out.’

This is the ‘bringing home’ of the embodiment of the unconscious, as a separate, uncanny but helpful presence. As the ensuing passage shows, it is the snake that leads to the way.

‘That’s just the way that thing (the hide) looked. I got a snake hide that third time I joined. He (the snake) is the one that put these things into my mind and set me to thinking. I’d wondered what was wrong, because I’d never kept thinking and seeing things like that before. He’s the one that suggested I join the Midewiwin. He also asked me if I wanted a drink. I said, No, not when I entered his house (the Mide lodge).

One of the old men spoke to me when I was in the lodge, the third time I joined. Me said, “When you come tomorrow, dress as nice as you can. That’s how this person wanted you to enter this house.” That’s just what I did. He said, “When you go along this road, do the best you can. Pay attention to what is before you, not what is behind you. When you speak, watch your tongue. After you get through here and know what to do, watch your step for the next two or three years. If you do, he’ll take you along this road just as he suggested. This road never comes to an end. ,pay no attention to the side roads. Pay attention to the road that s in front of you. This is his (the snake’s) road, and this is his home. 1f you take care of yourself, he will do the rest. Your thought be­longs to no one but you. Don’t listen to any kind of wind that’s blowing about you. Just turn the other way and do the best you can. He will know, because you’re the person he intended to enter his house. He has picked a person from our midst who happens to be you. He thought that you were the most wonderful thing that God has created. That’s why he picked your home to be his home; he liked that place. And this little thing that I’ve got in my hand (a tiny blue and white shell) belongs to him.”‘

Here is the deep centre (the equivalent of the jasper stone in the sword and cross vision), the something from the depths which ‘be-longs’ to the snake. The old man continues:

“Whatever you say and do-he knows all about it. Don t think that he doesn’t hear whatever you say, because he does. He has become one of the wonderful members of your household.” Then this old man pointed to my head. “See how your hair is today. As you go along this road, your hair will change to a different colour. This thing (the blue and white shell) will take you along the road that we are going to teach you about.” Then he touched the tip of my ear. “These things you own yourself. They belong to nobody but you. The thing that has happened to you is the most wonderful thing I have ever heard of. I have heard of that happening in olden times. Back in my days I heard that people had such a vision like that. It is the most wonderful thing that can happen to a person on this earth. Don’t be afraid to give what you’ve got; because later on, in years to come, you will get paid for it. As you go along this road, you will be using one stick. Maybe by that time you will have grand-children, and you will be able to tell them about this wonderful thing that has happened to you. As you go along to the end of this road, you will be using two sticks. You will still be walking toward this wonderful house that you have seen. This (the shell) is the one that owns it.” ‘

In the Midewiwin third initiation a shell is supposed to be magic­ally ‘shot’ into the candidate from a snake hide, which is referred to during the ceremony as a ‘gun’. Here is the authentic symbolism of the deep centre: that which takes her along the road; that which owns the wonderful house towards which she is travelling; that which enters into and transforms the personality. The old man concludes:

‘”In maybe five or six years from now, you will be entitled to join again. I hope that I may still be here to see it and know what it’s all about. I’m telling you this again, to impress it on your mind. Don’t regret the things that you did in your younger days. You have made only one mistake. Don’t let it happen again.”

(The interviewer asks: What mistake was that?)

“I didn’t give no tobacco to the people I was named after . . .”

When you join the Midewiwin the third time, they tell you that the snake is wrapped all around the earth. He may scare you, but he doesn’t mean to. When I joined that time, they told me that if I had anything nice that grew from the earth-like black­berries-I should give a feast. But I didn’t do it, because the berries were all gone by then; and three months later I gave my hide away; so there was no use in giving a feast to the snake.’

The end is failure. ‘Three months later I gave my hide away.’ The experience has passed her by. The woman to whom these images came saw them as she might a film. She was aware of the archetypal processes with the natural awareness of the quasi-primitive, but she had not the means of incorporating their value into consciousness. The revelation itself was admirably complete: the mandala; the name; the snake; the deep centre. The way she is shown is, in effect, the reso­lution of the fundamental opposites of consciousness and the uncon­scious. ‘This road never comes to an end. Pay no attention to the side roads. Pay attention to the road that’s in front of you.’ But she could not hold the experience. All the transforming symbols were there but not the necessary realisation. Quoted from Experiment in Depth by P. W. Martin

Dream doorway to wider awareness

The inner centre, the Self, or the guiding spirit of a person “is realised in an exceptionally pure, unspoilt form by the Naskapi Indians, who still exist in the forests of the Labrador peninsula. These simple people are hunters who live in isolated family groups, so far from one another that they have not been able to evolve tribal customs or collective religious beliefs and ceremonies. In his lifelong solitude the Naskapi hunter has to rely on his own inner voices and unconscious revelations; he has no religious teachers who tell him what he should believe, no rituals, festivals or customs to help him along. In his basic view of life the soul of man is simply an ‘Inner companion’ whom, he calls ‘My Friend’ or ‘Mista peo’, meaning ‘Great Man’. Mista peo dwells I the heart and is immortal. In the moment of death, or just before, he leaves the individual, and later reincarnates himself in another being.

Those Naskapi who pay attention to their dreams and who try to find their meaning and test their truth can enter into a greater connection with the Great Man. He favours such people and sends them more and better dreams. Thus the major obligation of an individual Naskapi is to follow the instructions given by his dreams, and then to give permanent form to their contents in art. Lies and dishonesty drive the Great Man away from one’s inner realm, whereas generosity and love of his neighbours and of animals attract him and give him life. Dreams give the Naskapi complete ability to find his way in life, not only in the inner world but also in the outer world of nature. They help him to foretell the weather and give him invaluable guidance in his hunting, upon which his life depends…… Just as the Naskapi have noticed that a person who is receptive to the Great Man gets better and more helpful dreams, we could add that the inborn Great Man becomes more real within the receptive person than in those who neglect him. Such a person also becomes a more complete human being.”

Tribal Elders

Becoming a tribal elder is a natural accompaniment of soul growth: As the individual grows in stature and in grace, bringing the personal will ever more into alignment with the Creators will and developing the talents it had earned in its long journey of earth sojourns, the personal evidence would mount for the promise of being and expression of the Creator.

These elders perceived as a matter  of fact and direct consciousness the redeeming presence  (within each unit-member of the group) of the larger life  to which she or he belonged. This larger life was a reality–  “a Presence to be felt and known”; and whether he or she called it by the name of a Totem-animal, or by the name of a Nature-divinity, or by the name of some gracious human-limbed God or what-not–or even by the great name of  Humanity  itself, it was still in any case the living  incarnate Being by the realization of whose presence the little mortal could be lifted out of exile and error and death and  suffering into splendor and life eternal.

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In American Indian education, within each tribe elders, “are repositories of cultural and philosophical knowledge and are the transmitters of such information,” including, “basic beliefs and teachings, encouraging…faith in the Great Spirit, the Creator”. “The fact acknowledged in most Indian societies: Certain individuals, by virtue of qualifications and knowledge, are recognized by the Indian communities as the ultimately qualified reservoirs of aboriginal skills.” The role of elder is featured within and without classrooms, conferences, ceremonies, and homes.

The following definition is from a study of the role in a specific tribe:

A point of reference: those people who have earned the respect of their own community and who are looked upon as elders in their own society…We have misused the role of elder through our ignorance and failure to see that not all elders are spiritualleaders and not all old people are elders

— Roderick Mark (1985)

Here is a persons experience in becoming an elder: “What arose was the sense that I need to move into being an elder in my tribe. I need to become more of a father figure, letting go of personal possession. There was a real sense of loss, of saying goodbye to something that I longed for. But gradually it came, and I felt I could let go of wanting to possess my woman, and being willing to act as a father or a loving friend. This felt like a huge development. It felt like an initiation that I was passing through, and if I could not have let go I would not have passed the initiation. As it happened, I did let go. I did pass the initiation. I did become an elder of my tribe.  So, to tell you what I feel Life spoke to me, I need to stand in the right space, a place you have not met me in yet. In this place I am the elder of my tribe. This is my lodge and I welcome you in. Welcoming is not a courtesy. It is offered to you because of who you are. My name in this place is both Pathfinder and Recorder. They are names given me by the spirit years ago. I listen now as an elder, as a man, and as the spirit of things.”

See: Iroquoian dream cultSpirit-Child: The Aboriginal Experience of Pre-Birth Communication.

Comments

-Crystal Goose 2011-10-05 22:40:36

I’m an Ojibwe woman, 50 years of age. On February 26, 2011 my only child (son) was the victim of murder by gun (3 shots). In June a few days before my son’s birthday this year I had a dream: Knock at my door, answered my door to find a dark skinned man in a white robe flowing to his feet was standing there. He said, “I have come for my bird” and he had his hands held together forming a cup. I allowed him into my house…. dream ended.

Today, October 5, 2011 during my nap I dreamed the first time where my son was present in my dream. I was preparing a meal for several people, my son was assisting me with the meal preparation. We finished and the people were all seated around the big table eating, talking and laughing. I told my son to go eat. He said “I don’t want to eat with them I want to eat with you, Mom.” So we fixed our plates and went to the back yard to eat together. While we were eating my son says “Mom you were right that girl is pregnant.” I woke up.

    -Tony Crisp 2011-11-03 11:26:53

    Crystal Goose – The first dream is a clear indication that your son spirit was about to fly. And the feeling is that he has flown high and free.

    The second dream my intuition tells me is a message from your son. He is saying, “Mom I have left something for you in this world” – referring to the pregnant girl.

    Tony

-TARA 2011-10-03 20:52:50

I dream many lucid dreams.Often remembering places and names.Mostly of people I have never seen before.I have so much that is un answered.

one that has stood out most recent I was sleeping on the couch…I could hear someone calling my name 3 times..I then could see myself below as i was above..next to me was a native male close in age to me.I wake up i was back in my body and he was gone. I have seen him 2 other times..

Once where he guided me in a forest to a older couple whom the elder woman was layin under a leanto..i remember seeing herbs and feathers hanging from the edges.A fire to my right. And the elder man to my right as well.I kneel next to her and pulled a orange powder from my leather pouch ad mixed in bowl with water and she drank it.She sat up and we al sat by the fire as the man cooked meat..He told stories in a language i didnt understand and we faced the direction i stood..she sat next to me and he was next to her…

then there was one where I was in the midwest usa..and I was driving..I made a phone call and remember coming back into state route 40 towards NM, asking the person on the phone where they are at.They asked me if i was on Sawmill.I looked it up and it approximately puts me in northern arizona at the northern arizona state university around flagstaff. I have never been there at all, not even to that state to know this area.

Ive started asking question in my dreams know i am aware of them…Its got me up late at night…I feel like I never get a good nights rest no matter what time i go to bed.

    -Tony Crisp 2011-11-03 10:01:38

    Tara – I think it is difficult sometimes to be able to separate yourself from believing that because you are lucid everything is as real as if you are awake. You are still in the dream world even though you are aware of yourself and lucid. And there are level after level of lucid dreaming, and most people are usually become lucid in the very lowest one – in the middle of dream symbolism.

    You seem to feel that the people you meet and the places are real, and I cannot know whether that is true unless you get confirmation form a waking person. The thing about Sawmills is not such a confirmation. But having said that, please do not be put off by what I am saying. I want to give you the best advice and that means to show you many alternatives. So please read http://dreamhawk.com/dream-encyclopedia/levels-of-awareness-in-waking-and-dreaming/

    Tony

-Matt Allen 2011-09-30 2:24:54

I am Not Sure how this works but i have been having a dream lately that i am not sure what it means.. The dream was in a house i have never seen before but i lived there. I was opening the front door to see outside when i realized that there were many people outside which turned out to be council from every tribe in the country. They were not modern day native Americans but dressed in ceremonial dress.
They were there to seek council from me in the matter of the end of time, weapons to be used in war and the last thing they were talking about was cut off because i awoke. Usually in dreams once i awake it is gone but 20 mins later or so i was back in the dream past the final topic. Although they all spoke the native tongue of their respected tribe i was able to understand what they were saying without trouble. i do not understand this dream due to the fact i had done nothing in the day to trigger such a dream.
Thank you for listening

-emma 2011-09-28 23:09:57

I should mention that I was walking over to this table and it had a picture of my son on it..I picked up this doll and it was actually my son…it was like the picture had come to life..I remember touching his little face, and the smile he had..I started to cry..I remember saying how much i loved and missed him, and how his skin was so soft..

-Emma 2011-09-28 16:06:15

i’ve been having dreams of a graveyard and as Im driving through it im crying for my loved ones who are buried there..In my dream last night, i was touching my baby again..(he passed away in 1994 at the age of 6 months)..In all my dreams this last week, I have been crying..
what am i missing?? I feel someone is trying to tell me something, but i am unable to understand..

    -Tony Crisp 2011-10-31 13:37:29

    Emma – I have the impression that you are crying because you feel he is dead and gone for good; or that you miss seeing him grow up; or even that you cannot communicate with him.

    A mistake you are making is that your son isn’t buried there. It is only his body, which is like shell that can be outgrown. And why do you muddy the water by crying about them instead of being quiet and communicate with them. When we die we can go into a very different experience of being, one that gives an enormously enlarged opportunity to them. Unlike older cultures we are not taught how to listen to our loved dead. Also people expect the dead to talk to them as if they were alive – making physical sounds. But the dead contact us though feelings and thoughts, and unless we are quiet enough to listen we cannot hear them. But you obviously you feel something is trying to be communicated, so listen to the spontaneous feelings that arise as you listen to your son.

    Tony

-Dequa Adkins 2011-09-06 23:03:42

Osiyo to you my friend and Blessing ….I stumbled upon your site while looking for answers about what is going on. I am so sorry if I appear to look and sound stupid …no disrespect ment …but let me explain my great grandmother was Cherokee and she was taken from her tribe by a Irish trapper.

they had 10 children my grandmother being one of them, When I was a little girl my great grandmother lived in a small trailor beside my grandmother and everytime we went to see her I stay with my great one I will call her Pearl. She Smudged me many times and warned me never to tell anyone not my parents or any other family member,

after that she would tell me of the horrible things that would happen to them and they could not be recognized as indian or white…she told me to remember that we always came from the blue clan.

She said you will see things others will not see some of us do…I hope you will be ok grandaughter.

She died not afew years after that and then I was raised mostly around nature…before marriage but not around my heritage but I saw the spirit of my grandmother a few times and my heart was missing my people felt something like her calling me back…that was 8 years ago

a few months ago I was meditating when I came into a smoky hut with a circle of what appeared to be Elders and a couple of older women in the back bundled in blankets….One spoke in his native tongue and I understood him perfect ( I am trying to learn it now) but he was saying ” things are not like the old ways …there is no respect in our lands…you have eyes like the color of the sky but your blood runs red and your heart is of our clan”…then he paused

and looked down and waited a few minutes I didn’t really know what to think the women behind him were crying and everything was so somber then he looked up so proudly at me and said sometimes some godd thing can come from some bad things not often does that happen but for peace and balance it is good…will they not guide you?

At that question I had to shake my head I had worked for a shaman and he taught me some about herbs and healing and I have great respect for him …but he was very demanding and wanted more than I could give him so I had to leave. and that was my only connection…when I looked at him I saw a tear fall from his eye…he said I will see that you are never alone.

From that point on …occasionally I will hear his voice or sense his presence but weather this is real or not it sure seems it.
……………………………………thanks for your time

    -Tony Crisp 2011-10-05 11:19:46

    Dequa – The warmth of my love reaches out to you.

    Good things do come from bad, but even so it is hard living in such times when the great traditions are not honoured. Even those who say they are teaching us are asking money for it – which is a sickness of our times.

    You miss your teacher, but believe me when I say that if you really learn the language of your people, not just the words that are spoken, but the spirit of them, you will get all the learning you can ever want. You are in touch with the giver of wisdom, and you just need to receive it, as you did when the elder spoke to you. Sometimes the teaching comes slowly, and sometimes in a great flash when we see the whole world lit up and visible to us.

    We all miss our people, for we are all torn from our roots and wander like strangers. But it is a bad thing that great good can come from. For we can no longer depend upon the old traditions and pathways, but must discover our own path across the desert of the world today. And yet the pathway is always there before you if you look within, as you did when you meditated. And that pathway is a new revelation and a new life. So keep true to your inner feelings, and yes, of course the tears were real, but in the world of visions, not of the external world. For visions are usually more true that the world unless our eyes are truly opened.

    Tony – Silver Grey Wolf

-sea 2011-09-04 9:23:05

hy

    -Tony Crisp 2011-09-27 13:39:30

    Hy to you too Sea.

    Tony

-GG 2011-08-15 22:23:31

I had a dream that has been bothering me for quite some time, I am walking with a old white haired man up some stairs, as I look up I see a tall black figure coming out of a door with a wicked smile almost from ear to ear, I am so scared I turn to run the man in white turns to me am says run I turn down the stairs and instinctively run towards the woods, it fall, I know this because the leaves are all changing, I am running still and am again instinctively reaching in my pocket I have 4 jars of powder YELLOW,RED,BROWN and I’m not certain the last color I reach the top of a small hill and am again instinctively placing the jars of powder North,East,South,West I’m facing South I don’t know how I know this but I feel it I guess, I see the tall Black shadow coming toward me quickly and I am trying to make sure I place the jars in the right order. I guess for protection. It seems to work the black figure can not touch me, Then I see him go above me and I grab a White powder from my pocket and say “THIS IS FOR MY DREAMS” I look up and blow the white powder into the air and He disappears. I don’t understand what this means. Since I had this dream it’s like a door was opened and they have not stopped. I am hoping you may be able to shed some light on this for me.

Thank you

    -Tony Crisp 2011-09-08 9:36:20

    GG – First of all I am sorry it has taken so long to reply. I have just moved house.

    This is an exceptional dream. The white haired man is the wisdom that spans lifetimes. You are walking with him up stairs because the higher up you get the more of your surroundings you can see, so it says you are moving toward wider awareness.

    Then the dark figure is something you have to face at some time on the ascent of awareness. Jung calls it the shadow self, but it is also known as the Guardian of the Threshold. It is, in the way of dreams, an image that depicts all your past karma that needs to be undone. In other words all the things in the past that have a negative influence on your present life – as you sow so shall you reap.

    It would have been better to have faced it, but you managed to make it disappear, for ever or not I do not know. You did it by using a ritual form of magic – i.e. using symbolic behaviour to influence the powers of your mind and spirit. It is an indirect method but it works. It is very similar to the American Indians Sacred Circle, with four different colours. See http://users.ap.net/~chenae/spirit.html

    Light on the Path.

    Tony

-Rachel 2011-08-09 21:41:11

I am half Seneca through my mother’s side to give a little background. Last night I had a dream I was in a woods and being surrounded then viciously attacked by a white wolf. It was the most terrifying dream I’ve ever had because it seemed so real!

I began to ran from him, and came to a cliff’s edge. I jumped into the night sky somehow knowing I would land safely. I continued to fall for what felt like forever and my stomach kept lurching like I was on a rollercoaster. Also, at this point in my dream I realized it was a dream and kept repeating to myself, it’s just a dream…in order to not be as scared I was falling to my death.

Any idea what all of this means?

    -Tony Crisp 2011-08-26 9:04:57

    Rachel – Here is something I am trying to help people understand about dreaming. You are half Seneca, so have in you from your ancestors understanding of the inner world. But there is still more to realise. The end of the dream is full of courage for you did not fear that you could be killed in your dream.

    Yet at the very start of your dream you were terrified of the wolf. A white wolf is a beautiful image of something, a gift you could have received, and still can. It was a test that you failed – then of course you passed the test of falling.

    The test was to see if you could face an attack without running or killing. Here is a dream illustrating it.

    It was a large place, but my main impressions were of a huge – seven foot man. He came apparently to assist me and lived or existed in the place. I noticed he had a huge knife stuck in his belt and I thought he might use it to attack me. This didn’t worry me too much, but I asked him why he had it. He told me there was a big Puma in the place that leapt on one and you had to guard against it. So he gave me a knife to do so. We walked off to explore the building and the beautiful big Puma leapt on me. But at this point I was lucid and knew that nothing could harm me in the dream state. So I caught hold of the Puma in my arms and held it. As I did so I saw it was the beautiful, powerful, female the wild untamed aspect of a person I loved, and treated the she cat lovingly.

    You see, that if we kill and maim creatures within us – our dreams – then we are dead in all our expanding areas of consciousness. By denying feelings, love, warmth, creativity, pain and pleasure – that is death of ourselves. It is death of our consciousness. There is no other death. Or, to put it another way, if death is cessation of awareness, then in diminishing ourselves we experience death now.

    So in avoiding the white wolf you missed the opportunity it become a bigger person – more alive. After all, as you said, “I kept … repeating it’s just a dream…in order to not be … as scared of death.”

    So do that with the wolf, knowing that nothing can hurt you in your dreams.

    Tony

-Barb 2011-07-30 1:18:57

Hi..I have Been seeing this white owl on and off for my whole life when ever there is a major life changing decision be made. My husbands seen it too so I know its real. The other night I started having a dream with the owl in it. It tells me that I need to earn my braids. Some times its at a lake some times the woods. Its always the same message. Always at night. Any idea what this means?

    -Tony Crisp 2011-08-21 16:33:56

    Barb – The woods and the lake are commonly representing the natural, what is usually unconscious. The lake is also used to show what goes on under the surface, and of course night is again things that are not easily seen, are out of sight of normal knowing.

    The owl sees in the dark and so it represents our intuitive sense that ‘sees’ what is happening in the subtle areas of our feeling and experience. This sense ‘feeds’ by watching or acting as an integrating function with the many dark or hidden aspects of our experience and behaviour. Because this part of our mental process is aware of the hidden activities in the depths of our body and mind, it can initiate our conscious self into the mysteries of life and death.

    I am not sure what ‘earn my braids’ means to you. I am guessing it is a measure of you personal growth.

    Tony

-Steven Andrew Gibbins 2011-07-26 0:12:57

A few years back I did a remodeling job that the house was on Native American soil. The Nanticoke’s in Delaware. I am also a small part Native American heritage and very proud of it. But I had never done much about it until these things happened to me. Any way while working on the property I would go into a dream state when I would lay down. And although I was awake I was not. It seemed I had no controlover my body. But began to hear thvoice of a man who had two sons murdered a hudred years back. And since no one knew who they were trapped from going to the other side. I was told I was suppose to com there and on another occasion one night I was told to get up, go outside and reach into the dirt. There I would find two stones representing his sons , one black and on white. I reached down in the darknes , felt to stones and went back inside. Sure enough they were as he said. I was told many many things I wish I could share with someone but no one will listen. They thi nk I m nuts. Anyway the rest of the story was mind boggling. The things that happened in dream states. One thing also, The father told me that the crows would follow me as a sign that this was real. The next day they were waiting everywhere I went. This property was down the beach so I thought it odd I had crows in stead of sea gulls.. Anyway, if anyone can direct me to someone I can speak to about all this I would appreciate that. Thanks S A Gibbins ,

Onaquacome

    -Tony Crisp 2011-08-17 12:04:50

    Onaquacome – What a thing you tell of. It seems your story needs to be heard. And it will be heard by those who have need to know of it.

    The dream state while awake, a sort of waking lucid dream, is something only the daring dare to enter into. But often it comes to us without warning. It is far superior to lucid dreaming, and brings enormous insights into the inner worlds. It is good to know you have it, and it is also a good thing to tell about it because many so called experts have never touched it. See my take of it in http://dreamhawk.com/approaches-to-being/lifes-little-secrets/

    I looked at your website and wandered through. It is very well done and the stories and poems caught my interest. http://writersbench.weebly.com/

    But I loved the video on this site. It is, as the title suggests, magnificent – http://www.andiesisle.com/creation/magnificent.html

    Tony

      -Tony Crisp 2011-11-15 11:52:39

      Steven – I am sorry it takes so long to reply but I have to do each one is turn, and at the moment I am only up to 17th of October.

      Yes, you have something few other have – the ability to experience the inner worlds while still awake. Also you trusted yourself to be moved in body by an inner force. Most people would think they were mad and got sedatives – but you trusted Life.

      Tony

-Deanna M. 2011-07-09 23:20:41

In my dream I observed a Native American “spirit” on the top of a rock formation(such as in new mexico or arizona) upon approaching him I realized it was my ex(a Native American of Sioux decent) who died about 4 years ago, we embraced and then with his arms around me, he threw us off the rocks(I felt no fear,only peace, as we fell). As we fell, there was some sort of ceramony going on around us. Upon reaching the ground, we were”married” but were forced to be separated for decades at a time and only able to reunite for a short time before disolving into dust and “returning to the Earth”.

I dream of him regularly (about 2x a week or more) and this was by far the most VIVID, REAL, and DETAILED dream I have ever had about him or anyone else. I have been awake for nearly 2 hours and I still feel as if I’m in a fog, It took me nearly 1 hour just to feel able to sit up.

    -Tony Crisp 2011-07-19 11:46:49

    Deanna – Wow – that was some dream!

    It is an initiation leading to your realisation that you are linked together in a special way through many lifetimes. That is often the way when we are married in the sense that you were – long separations.

    I would love to know what it has left you with – what have you learnt from it?

    The falling was a test to see if you would surrender.

    Tony

-Bec 2011-06-25 3:06:05

Hi
I had a dream last night/early this AM where 4 white horses were running, but about to be harmed by DNR workers/turned white looking cowboy men. A Native American guide type man with greenish/hazel eyes, whitish and dark brown braids and a flannel shirt and jeans told me that he horses would be fine. He also put a tobacco cigarette on the ground and told me that was ok too. I said something about Mother Earth. I felt like I was waiting for more information or guidance from this man or the horses, but instead I woke up. What does this dream mean??? I did sit with a Native American man a few nights ago at a meeting and felt very close to him while listening to his stories. This was not the man in my dream though. Also, the man I sat next to the other night had no stories about horses or anything like my dream. I am part Native American myself (slightly). Back in March I met a Native American shaman. I had a definite connection with her. She gave me some insight about myself and I’ve been torn about following some of the things she was talking about with me. Anyone have any thoughts on this????

    -Tony Crisp 2011-07-05 11:05:05

    Bec – The white horses are the flow of the Spirit through you. It is a very good dream. The feeling that your contact with the Spirit might be hurt is a natural one, and can be caused by taking seriously the material views of most people you meet – and of course the culture you live in. But the Native American of your dream is your own contact with the Source/Spirit, and it was good but you were not able to maintain the contact. That is not unusual unless you are well settled in your contact with your Source.

    The wisdom of the Native Americans is a good guide.

    “I believe that being a medicine man, more than anything else, is a state of mind, a way of looking at and understanding this earth, a sense of what it is all about.”
    — Lame Deer, LAKOTA
    The Medicine Wheel explains different ways of looking at the world. The four directions are the East, the South, the West, and the North. In the East is the view of the eagle. The eagle flies high and sees the earth from that point of view. The South is the direction of the mouse. Moving on the earth, the mouse will not see what the eagle sees. Both the eagle and the mouse see the truth. The West is the direction of the bear. The bear will see different from the mouse and the eagle. From the North comes the point of view of the bison. To be a Medicine Man you must journey through all points of view and develop the mind to see the interconnectedness of all four directions. This takes time, patience, and an open mind. Eventually, you understand there is only love.
    Great Spirit, today, allow my mind to stay open.

    You can get these messages from Elder’s Meditation of the Day http://www.whitebison.org/meditation/index.php

    I cannot comment on what the shaman said because I would need to know what it was about. But the main thing is to trust your own inner voice that comes from listening.

    Tony

      -Bec 2011-08-10 21:55:47

      Tony, Thank you for your insight about my dream! The Native American Shaman that I had a connection with back in March told me that I could be a great therapist because of my empathy. What’s funny is that I had been considering that field or interested in that for a while, but I never did anything about it (the shaman had no previous knowledge of that). Due to recent life circumstances I have become a single mother of two kids with not much money or material goods. I’m trying to figure out what to do with my life now and how to go about it. I work part time and spend the rest of my time with my kids and running errands. I have a BA in Anthropology and I am considering trying to find a way to get to grad school to become a counselor. It’s a long road! It would take me three years starting next summer of full time grad study and then two years of making practically nothing in order to get enough hours in for licensure. Any advice on all of that?

        -Tony Crisp 2011-08-29 12:40:26

        Bec – I know there is a way through this diffrculty because I became a therapist without going through the route of training. If you are moving in the field of Native American influence you can become a healer or a counsellor in a similar way. You listen to your dreams and ask for help in becoming a healer you will be shown the way. Ask with the plea of you being a single mother and so need help.

        There is also another way, there is a way of dealing with dreams that I have taught many people. You do not need to know psychology or even dream theory. I taught it to one group and after four lessons a woman came to me – one of the group – and told me, “I work as a Jungian therapist and I am fed up with my colleagues tearing my dreams apart in an analytical way. What I learned here is wonderful and I am going back to London and start a group like this.”

        So I feel I can teach you this fairly quickly; you could start earning and start your healing and counselling career. That might give you tine to get your qualifications.

        Let me know what you think about that. We could talk about it.

        Tony

-georgeanna 2011-06-20 13:03:08

My grown dtr dreams a lot about a dead ex-boyfriend and my late last husband. She is getting quite upset about this as it happens all the time. I wish I could find out what the dream means.

    -Tony Crisp 2011-06-30 8:56:14

    Georgeanna – It would have been helpful to have details of one of your daughter’s dreams.

    If it is that the dear people communicate with her, what is the problem with that, unless you has absorbed lies about what death it about. See http://dreamhawk.com/interesting-people/collected-wisdom/

    If it is that she has not really felt her feelings about these double deaths, then she needs help to face her fears or feelings of loss. But very often such feelings arise out of a terrible misunderstanding. We have all been raised in a culture that still believes in the atom theory, which is that at one time it was believed that the atom was the basic building block of everything, and atoms are physical things. So your body was seen as a physical thing only and as such any damage to your brain or body meant death. But that was shown to be incorrect in 1900, yet we are still plagued by the belief that we are doomed – unless we have faith, and how many of us really have that? Get your daughter to read the little book Closer to the Light by Dr Morse. http://www.amazon.com/Closer-Light-Melvin-Morse/dp/0804108323/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1307353595&sr=1-1-fkmr0

    Tony

-Mary 2011-05-15 22:26:55

I have been having a dream of this warrior chanting on top of my mothers grave at night time with a full moon and I am trying to put small stones in to place with numbers on them. I see the number 1, 4, and 5. The stone do not stay in place they float up and back in front of me out of place and I look up at the man chanting with his hair blowing in the wind and it is very long and he is beautiful in my eyes and very peaceful and then I start to replace the stones again but they do not stay in place. what does this mean?

    -Tony Crisp 2011-05-24 9:11:16

    Mary – I see the warrior as what you might call your guide or teacher. He is something you have called to help you. So he represent the power you have in the dream or non physical world.

    I believe he is chanting to wake up your mother. Sometimes people go into a sleep state after death, or are lost in some way, perhaps not knowing how to relate to the new life. Anyway he is calling her.

    The stones and numbers are the eternal qualities you feel your mother has. To be reminded of them is a part of being called and woken. I saw all three meanings for the numbers, but have lost two. The number one is about your mother being the first person in your life.

    Tony

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