God

And He said, “Hear now my words: If there be a prophet among you, I the LORD will make myself known unto him in a vision, and will speak unto him in a dream” (Num. 12:6).

“I will pour out of My Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams” (Acts 2:17).

“For God speaketh once, yea twice, yet man perceiveth it not. In a dream, in a vision of the night, when deep sleep falleth upon men, in slumberings upon the bed; Then He openeth the ears of men, and sealeth their instruction, That He may withdraw man from his purpose, and hide pride from man. He keepeth back his soul from the pit, and his life from perishing by the sword.” (Job 33:14- 18).

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Jung says that while the Catholic Church admits of dreams sent by God, most theologians make little attempt to understand dreams in relationship to God.

God and Christian morality is as incoherent as our own core of logic about our sovereign independent agency. He  (God) says he is the one who puts our will and thus our specific actions into us, but then condemns or glorifies us arbitrarily, to demonstrate His power. Even so, he continues to treat us as morally self-authoring entities, the origins of our actions. But he continues to maintain that it is not us, but only Him, who is the origin of our will, while still condemning or praising us. How can the potter be morally angry and impatient at his own clay products? God’s moral attitude is manifestly incoherent or self-contradictory.

In fact the whole image of God we have been given is ridiculous. God is shown as a male figure, never with a female aspect. Yet God, being the creator of Everything, so that all things have their source in Him??

The fundamental description of god in Hebraic teaching was ‘ain soph’ – the unknown god. Being Everything, it can never be a THING because things like maleness would be something. But it/God becomes something in expressing itself. For the word Elohim is usually translated as God, but it actually means gods. See Secret Bible

Example: As I experienced this, I realised that everything that exists is a part of that wondrous being. There is nothing that is not of its love. So that whatever arises in the universe arises out of, and as, THAT. The human sense of God is a realisation of the very substance of our own existence. The awe we might feel is from an intuition of what has been given us as our own being.

And as that great unity of energy and consciousness died, its very last impulse was for those new beings that might arise from its death. The impulse that flashed out we call love. It flashed through the universe permeating its every particle, in a way that we cannot yet perceive, but which is like a touch upon the pulsating chaotic movements of particles and lives. See Big Bang and God are the Same

Example: For a while I drew nearer the awareness of ‘God’. I wanted to be able to have a clear view of what this experience was and how to describe it. It seemed to me that there was no great astral, ethereal being we call God. In my awareness I sensed that there was something connected with the living bodies and minds of all things. It was something like music in the sense that out of the many separate instruments an overall sound arises.

Or it could be like the body that comes about from the unity of countless cells, yet is different than any single cell. A reality that does not have its base on any one thing, yet has existence nonetheless. So I saw God as a reality that is as ever shifting as music because of the changing face of physical events and mind arising from it. This thing ‘God’ is as near to us and as practical as our own heartbeat. If we feel our heartbeat and honestly ask ourselves what causes our existence, do we really know? We probably have some formulaic idea such as chemical or biological processes. But neither chemistry nor biology explain the full answer. What is at our base is a mystery, and it seems wise to me to stand before that mystery humbly and open to it in our dealings with everyday life.

My sense of God did not present itself as something that was an ultimate being causing all things, but as an intrinsic aspect of what exists, and that exists because of reality, and acts upon it. You can never grasp it because it always moves and evolves. I felt it to be like wind. Could I be the wind? It is featureless yet touching and influencing things.

Then a strong image of a snake arose. The influence of God, of the featureless power that can enter a human life and transform it was like a snake. The snake can bite you, and its venom may flow throughout your being and kill you. Most of us are very frightened of this. The reason being that the venom will take away your personal boundary of self. It melts the boundary of egoic self-interest, and personal connections with family and children, with choices in action. It replaces the personal interests and fears with a self that is part of the one great life. So, the fear of the snake is not because its venom is deadly, but because it transforms. It turns you into a being who is part of the whole. It robs one of the artificial walls placed between self and the collective pool of life consciousness.

Being a god: You are always the hero of your own life. You are the central character of your own drama of experience. As such you are the deed doer, the hero or fallen god, especially when the dream is portraying dramatic life events.

We are all deities. As it says very clearly in Genesis, “And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: … So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.”

So we are all the image of God – Unfortunately we live in a world that denies it.

Meister Eckhart has this to say of it: So now I name it in a nobler fashion… It is free of all names, and void of all forms. It is one and simple, as God is one and simple, and no man can in any wise behold it.’

Because God is neither male or female, darkness or light, the created or the creator, but is everything at the same time, it is foolish trying to define what is behind existence.

God in a dream can depict several things: A set of emotions we use to deal with anxiety – i.e. our own belief that a higher power is in charge, so therefore we are okay in the world and are not responsible – thus an escape from responsibility; a parent image from early infancy; a set of moral or philosophical beliefs one holds; self judgement; something/someone we worship; a feeling of connection with humanity; an expression of the fundamental creative/destructive process in oneself; a sense of ones living interaction or relationship with all beings and the universe.

So to dream of God might be an expression of your religious feelings or emotional feelings about God. But it is helpful to remember that if you have strong feelings for a friend, or think about them and feel uplifted or moved, the feelings in no way are that friend. They are only about that friend. So in most cases, when someone tells us they were moved by God, they are usually meaning they were moved by feelings or ideas they experienced about God.

God also depicts processes in oneself that can be enormously transformative. Seen in a very practical way, if a person has no belief that there is anything in life that stand beyond their present situation and weakness, they might never open to the possibility of it. Even if God is only an idea, opening to the influence of that idea allows the action within oneself of an enormous enlargement of functions such as self-healing, widening of awareness, and reaching beyond ones previous limitations and boundaries.

In some dreams however, one has an experience almost as if there is no separation between what is sensed as God, and oneself. This formless, often emotionless experience, may be thought of as an opening to your fundamental and core self.

The archetypal image of God when investigated in dreams, often reveals itself to be an underlying sense that we have within us of our own core self – and so therefore in some way – life itself, the creative impulse of life. This unconscious realisation that we are the Creator, that the holy essence of life itself is expressing as our own being, is so difficult to accept that it is usually projected outward to form an external God. We approach this external God as if it is something distinct from ourselves. Yet again and again, when people delve deeply into themselves they arrive at the realisation – I AM GOD – I AM THAT I AM.

The powerful emotions we sometimes experience about God may well be connected with our tremendous childhood need for love and approval from parents. But equally as likely is that the immense feelings we have about meeting God in a dream, may express the wonder and perhaps terror we experience in meeting the enormity of realising we are the Creator. As the ego melts and realises itself as the One Great Life, undifferentiated, there can no longer be a sense of real separation.

Example: When I explored the emotions that had surfaced in recent dreams about God, I came across something totally unexpected. I had decided I would treat the image of God like a dream image, and ‘get inside it’, find out what was behind it. When I managed to do this I found with amazement that my desperate need for my father’s love, a love he found difficult to express, had been transported into my internal sense of God.

At this point I suddenly saw that my urge for God is actually the urge for my father’s love. My unsatisfied urge to receive love from my father, became a power to create an image of a loving God, an image of a cosmic father who can love – and from this inner creation of the psyche I can get the love I need. I created a loving God because that was my need. But others may create an avenging God to deal with their feelings of guilt; or a mysterious beautiful ever present God to deal with a sense of parental loss, and so on. The image takes the place of real human love – a second best. I see also that it is much more honest to say – not God loves me – but I love myself. I have become the father. I am the God. I have dared to take on the role of father and God. Tony C.

Example: I felt myself to be a primitive tribal male. Suddenly I encountered a force – or what I saw as an immense being. This being I felt was a god or God, but looking back it wasn’t an all encompassing being, so was more like a god, or an aspect of God. My visual impression of it though, was of something so huge yet visible, that I was at first terrified, and so were my ‘people’. If one can imagine an immense skyscraper rising into the clouds and beyond, yet not a building but a living being, this was my view of it. This being I knew as the All Shaper. It was the power which gave form or shape to everything. As such it could influence the shape one had become through the errors of history or the deeds of ones family or oneself. The pristine shape or matrix which guides the cells to form organs could be restored.

There was a problem however. This being was terrifying and beyond the gods of my people. To stand before it or acknowledge it was akin to transgressing all the lore of the tribe, all its customs. So not only was the All Shaper something more than we had known before and so threatening to our – and my – world view, but also to take it as ones god was to break with all the tribal traditions and to stand apart and different to ones whole tribe. Christopher.

Here is another view of God – there can be any number of such views.

At this point I experienced the living God, the influence of which, (the spirit we had felt). I had been aware of this God before, but never in such detail. It was experienced by me as the buzzing, radiating consciousness of all creatures. It was the united consciousness of all people and creatures everywhere. Not simply an aggregate of influence, but a living unity of consciousness. In the dream “we” were praying to this God, which is at the same time, oneself and more than self, and I here understood how such prayers work or fail. Because this God is not simply separate people doing things in the outer world, but collectively is unified effort, and is both the individual and collective consciousness. It can therefore both receive, be influenced by, and influence, individuals and groups. But because it is the collective being, its buzzing being is concerned, if that is the right word, with communal interest, with the whole, with the individual in their relationship with the collective. Where there is a collective desire, it is so powerful it becomes a certainty in realisation. There is so much power behind it, virtually nothing could stand in its way. Even though at first it is only held in collective mind, a certainty of it becoming manifested is almost absolute. This is rather like insurance statistics as reliable guide to future events. So if we pray for something that is of value collectively, the power of “God” is behind its manifestation.

But what I saw was that this is only one form of God. There are many gods – but for some people, this appears to be the absolute God.

Example: Is it God that I will find?

My experience replies – If you so wish for a God, then you can create the experience of one out of your own longing and energies, your creativity – and such a God will be wondrous.

But when I look to the ends of my own experience I do not find a God. I find the fundament of my own being – a primal condition of awareness that is ever with me though seldom dwelt in. It is a reality not a God. It is a foundation in my being, not a being giving me foundation. And what is there to find save consciousness and its reality? It leads to no wonders – it is a wonder. There is no escape from myself. But there is the liberation of that realisation.

Example: I witnessed a conversation between a man and a woman, and the man says, “Religion; that’s surely a direction for failures and people who can’t really cope with facing reality.”

And the woman he is accusing of this inability to face reality says, “You poor person! Is your mind or awareness so tiny that you have never realised the forces and processes of your own body are beyond anything you understand? Can’t you see that your very existence is brought about by things so far beyond your knowledge that it is only a statement of your impoverishment to suggest religion is an expression of some sort of smallness and failure. Have you never understood that? Have you not seen that religion is not only an acknowledgement of what we fail to understand and yet depend upon, but it is also an opening to it, a willingness to relate to it? It can also be something far more even than that. It is can be an active loving relationship. And such love is an exchange, a sharing, a way of merging one with another. It is an exchange – a sharing of bodily fluids – the very substance of life. Is that something you are afraid of?”

 

See: god and dreams; religion and dreamsarchetype of god/goddess; archetype of the  self individuation.

Comments

-Nicole 2017-12-28 13:35:07

I had a dream where two guys and myself tried to help an old man in his house. We knew he had mental problems but this time we saw him he was clearly possessed with something evil. The old man injured my friend. We were on the sidewalk as he willed himself to heal his wound (R shoulder, deep enough to see rib and heart even though that is not anatomically correct). We swatted down on the sidewalk and he lay on the sidewalk as his would was healing slowly. I called up to God to please help us. Suddenly, a giant ring with bright orange flames appeared outside the house and lifted something square and blue (the size of a telephone booth) up and into itself. The whole ring swallowed this object and burst into flames. Again, I asked for God’s help, I think this time my friends called out with me. A small bit of light pearled through the grey clouds and came down through the clouds and into the house. As if there was a mirror inside a huge white beam of light reflected bad to the heavens from the old man’s bedroom. We could see there was a struggle inside the house from the window. Then, the light healed the house and turned in back to its baby-blue color and turned the grass green again. When the light went back to heaven, the clouds disappeared and my friend’s wound was completely healed. We then went inside to give the man his sandwiches and he was back to his old self, which was still in need of our help. Then we left and the dream ended.

What are your thoughts on this dream? Thank you.

    -Tony Crisp 2018-01-03 11:06:27

    Hi – It would help you to understand your dreams, if you would read – http://dreamhawk.com/news/summing-up/http://dreamhawk.com/dream-encyclopedia/features-found-on-site/http://dreamhawk.com/dream-encyclopedia/acting-on-your-dream/#BeingPersonorhttp://dreamhawk.com/dream-dictionary/getting-at-your-dreams-meaning/

    Tony

    Nicole – After working with dreams for fifty years, I believe all the people, animals, places you see in your dreams, are simply your own feelings, fears, hopes and wonder projected onto the screen of your sleeping mind as images.

    So that suggests that the evil old man is an influence you absorbed from someone else, probably your father. Many people do not realise that they have an inner father equally as powerful as an external father. You have taken in millions of bits of memory, lessons learnt, life experiences along with all the feelings or problems met by loving and living with your father, and they are what makes you the person you are. This is true even if your father was never there for you – you still have all the memories of him not being there for you filed under ‘Father’. The memories and experience we gather unconsciously change us and are not lost. It is part of you and is symbolised in dreams as a person or event. Such an inner father can appear in dreams because you are still deeply influenced by what you hold within you.

    Your way of dealing with the influence is to open yourself to God’s power. This opens up the wound you felt from the evil influence in you, for your friend is also an aspect of you, probably a sensitive and feeling part of you. This may cause you to feel something of that wound in your body, for God works thoroughly in every part of you to heal. It is good to be inactive – squatting down – while the power works.

    It seems that it was bad communications between you that caused the problem – so the telephone booth was got rid of.

    First a rising power then a descending power did the work and so the healing is taking place in your life and in the life of the ‘old man’ – all through you asking God’s help. See http://dreamhawk.com/approaches-to-being/opening-to-life/

-Patrice 2017-01-29 17:39:38

I had a dream that a girl came to me in a white gown and told me that god said to love yourself more what do that mean

    -Tony Crisp 2017-01-30 10:10:33

    Hi – I am going to halt from answering your posts – the reason is that in so many of your post I give the same information to. This is because most people do not understand the difference between dreaming and waking life. Also I need to take time to update the site – dreamhawk.

    So, most of what I put in answers is my attempt at explain what dreams are really about. It would help you to understand your dreams, if you would read – http://dreamhawk.com/approaches-to-being/questions-2/#Summing also http://dreamhawk.com/dream-encyclopedia/features-found-on-site/

    Nothing can replace your own ability to understand your dream. With a little effort you can do it by practicing what is described in – http://dreamhawk.com/dream-encyclopedia/acting-on-your-dream/#BeingPersonOrThing

    Tony

    Patrice – Most of us do not realise that we are seeds that God planted. And also, as it says in the Bible – “So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.”.

    So God is at the core of you, and so loving yourself is learning to love God’s creation – you.

-Aaron 2014-05-15 5:17:18

I once drempt I wad in a big empty.parking.lot. All the sudden I seen clouds rolling in and a.cloud came down by trees and.lightning was everywhere. I went under this tent like structure and I knew gid was right in front of me. Invisible but there. I stood as he started drawing something with his finger with fire into the pavement. He drew a swastika. I got on my knees and bowed and said”the holy spirit is in me”. I ran into the mall to get my brother to come see but god left.and.we.looked up and saw many stars and we said wow! I seen all these images of old prophets. And there was alot of stuff about Iran in the dream.I was told im a very skilled.basketball.player(told this in many dreams.I can’t play basketball). I seen angels.a cable guy.came and installed cable.tv. Very long dream. There’s.some.more to it.

    -Ay 2014-11-29 18:57:03

    Am a Muslim, But i am kinda lost right now. I once had a dream whereby i saw Jesus in the dream, Whereby i felt as if am free from everything. I asked him not to go and he said to me, I will be waiting for you at home and he turned in to a white smoke. Few days ago i had another whereby i had a revelation of the sun coming close to earth and some people got burnt down while some did not and i later saw something written on the floor which says I AM GOD. i was so scared. When i woke up i had a feelings someone was beside me. Am thinking of converting into Christianity. But all my families are Muslim’s.

      -Tony Crisp 2014-11-30 16:20:19

      Ay – God is the father and mother of us all, and loves all, no matter what creed. The same applies to Jesus Christ who is above any creed and beliefs. So you do not need to convert to Christianity. Jesus is a living presence in your life and will teach you and tell you what would be good to do. That is how Jesus came to me. I see many Muslims are having visions or dreams of Jesus. See http://dreamhawk.com/inner-life/meetings-with-the-christ/

      You were told that he will waiting for you in your home. That is one place he met me and blessed my home. The presence of Jesus brings the sort of freedom you felt, and brings love to you and your family. Stay with the feeling that someone is near you. He is with you as a baby for he knows babyhood, as a youth and an adult, even in death, for he knows that too and will be with you.

      Tony

        -AY 2014-11-30 19:01:12

        Tony, Thanks for the support, Your words really touched me. Anytime soon am going to convert into Christianity, Have been reading the book of Revelations each words on that book makes me see the truth of our purpose on earth. Anytime i read the bible and i slpt off, I see so many revelations which i think am too young to see. Things i don’t know how to explain. My Dad is a very straight forward person. He said i should follow Mind when its comes to religion. I keep seeing Jesus in my dreams, I guess God is trying to show me the way.

          -Tony Crisp 2014-12-01 7:31:43

          Ay – The best guide is God as he reveals himself in your dreams and visions. It is a remarkable time at the moment and huge changes are happening.

          Tony

    -Aaron 2016-01-30 6:29:11

    Any idea about the part where God drew a swastika Tony?

-Suzanne 2013-04-30 15:33:17

A couple months ago I had a dream that I was by a door guarded by a humming bird/owl. He spoke telepathically to me, to confirm that I am the one to enter the room. Upon entering, it was dark, but there was a stream of light shining down on a book on a wooden table across the room. I approached the table, the book opened, there were no words, but I heard the voice of God. Unfortunately, All I can recall being said is that I should not be afraid.

-Karla 2013-04-13 0:18:04

I had a dream last night that someone one told me that I was god. That we we’re all gods and that in order to know I had to love. I closed my eyes and thought of all the people I loved. My heart became full and that started to spill out into my entire body. I could feel the vibration of my body change. I felt love in every single atom of my being. I became so light I started to float. It was a burn sensation almost. The feeling was about to reach my head when I woke up.

I haven’t been able to sleep since then.

    -Tony Crisp 2013-04-14 9:46:08

    Karla – We all know this though we choose to ignore it. (V. 26 & 27 ‘And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness, and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. So God created man in his image, in the image of God created He him; male and female created He them.

    In every age men and women have woken up and realised that they are God – for what else can they be, for even science tells us of the big bang of Creation, and that every atom in us comes from the stars. Unfortunately religions have tried to cover this up. See http://dreamhawk.com/approaches-to-being/the-secret-bible/http://dreamhawk.com/inner-life/god-and-the-big-bang-are-the-same/

    Tony

-thea 2012-10-30 0:49:05

when i was 8 years old, I dreamt that the sky opened and a dove came down from the sky with a scrolled letter on its side then suddenly a hand showed up from the sky I know it was God he was saying something but all i remembered was his last words…. and he says “do this for me”.
please reply thanks!

    -Tony Crisp 2012-10-30 20:41:25

    Thea – I believe you have been asked by the Highest to do something special. Consider what you are interested in and see if you are in some way serving people – or if not ask yourself what thoughts keep coming to you to do something.

    If you are uncertain pray for help directing you to do what God asked.

    Tony

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