Murder Murderer Murdered
Each of us are implicated in killing – by denying, repressing, controlling – some part of our own nature. These denied areas of your own sensitivity or potential can fortunately be resurrected through self awareness of your deed. If you flee from a murderer, it depicts a fear that is threatening your confidence or something you feel threatened by.
Murderous rage in dreamer: It is observable that repressed sexuality or traumatised childhood love leads to feelings of murderous rage which may not be expressed socially, but do appear in dreams; may also express childhood anger linked with emotional bond with mother being damaged. In this case the dreamer will be the murderer – even if in the dream the murderer appears to be someone else. The murder will then be the killing of any love or emotional connection or bond between child and parent. The child often thus murders its own feelings of love for the parent in order to survive apparent or real desertion – as for instance a child being put in foster care. The bonds are so instinctive and strong; to survive parting the child may have to hack away any emotional links.
Freud says, “Has different ‘moral standards’. In dreams we rape, pillage, murder and adventurously act in ways we would resist with horror in waking life.”
Example: I still denied that I wanted to mutilate or destroy my sister. Impossible. I had no such evil in me. When at length I did admit the evil in me, it was with outrage: of what therapeutic use could it be to discover that I had wanted to destroy, murder, my sister – at a time when I could scarcely think? Freud has this interesting comment to make: ‘A child is absolutely egotistical: he feels his wants acutely, and strives remorselessly to satisfy them, especially against his competitors, other children, and first of all against his brothers and sisters. And yet we do not on that account call a child ‘wicked’ – we call him ‘naughty’.
Example: It was something like a semi detached and sited on a slope. I was outdoors and I think felt or knew that we had just taken over this house. But I felt uneasy as if something from the past was linked with it.
Then I was at the back of the house, on the part sloping down from the back wall of the house. I noticed things covering what turned out to be a big hole dug against the back wall, deep into the soil. This was where I felt most ill at ease about the place. The hole had been covered with bits of board and other odd pieces of junk. I lifted these at the left of the hole and looked in. Sticking out from the side of the hole, about three feet down was the dead body of a young man. I could see the back of his skull had been smashed in. But although he had obviously been under the soil for some time, and had now been uncovered, the body was still in good condition, being slightly dried out or mummified.
I felt really guilty and connected with the body, as if I had been part of his murder, and was wondering frantically what I could do to hide or get rid of the body. Part of the problem was that pulling it out risked being seen with it.
In ‘being’ the body in the dream the man said, “But it wasn’t until I got into the role of the dead body that any depth of feelings emerged. Almost as soon as I was in the role of the dead body I began to think about and feel things connected with the way I had killed my sexuality as a teenager. Gradually these feelings deepened and I was describing my feeling hatred in regard to sexuality and how the masses were pulled along by their genitals into some sort of conformity and performance. I felt anger and loathing for what I felt at the time were the cattle human beings were. At the time I despised and hated them. I also felt repugnance at the way people talked about sex or appeared to enjoy it. It has to be understood that in that period in history in the UK, most of sex was depicted in terms of smut, dirt, animal desire, hidden pornography, or loveless fucking. I wept deeply, at times hardly able to breathe, with the pain of seeing what I had done to myself. I said sorry over and over. I saw that I need not have killed my love and sexuality, but could have expressed it in a tender and loving way.
Killing: Repressing or stopping some aspect of oneself – as when we kill our love for someone.
Where the dreamer imagines the death of a beloved relative: Freud believed this was because rivalry and hatred between brothers and sisters was deep rooted though unconscious and, in adult life, concealed by apparent warm affection. One reason for this, he suggested, was that for the child the idea of death meant no more than being ‘gone’: to wish another dead, in early childhood, is simply a way of wishing him removed from the scene. There are however other reasons. In moving toward independence we may find it difficult to establish our own decision making and feeling responses because our parents are so deeply engraved into our ways of behaving. In order to make a break from this we often kill them off in our dreams in one way or another. See: the section of father under archetypes, especially the part of killing father or burying father.
Example: I know what this is about — waiting for that impulse. I’ve created two golden ceremonial knives. I’ve got to cut my way out of the membrane. . It’s my flesh, as I strike out I feel it stabbing, it’s like someone is hacking their way in (hacking movements). I’ve done it, I’ve got it – crying gasping. I killed him – then I severed the arteries. I killed them. I cut the life blood. Then locked myself away never got up again – collapse’s – I got knocked down. I killed them. . (Guilt). The anger came from deep in the soul. I killed them so I could survive. M. went mad; alcoholic brag artist, my dad. That’s my guilty secret, I’m a murderer, killed them from within like a cancer. Undermined them all the time. They’ll be sorry – most of them are, but I’m wonderful, because I am a murderer. I killed to survive. Law of the jungle. All this shit about suffer the little children unto me. . Paradox I died to survive the matador. Comes’ into the ring crippled. Buddhist Mafia – protection money.
Useful Questions and Hints:
Is the body about in the dream?
Do I feel involved and if so in what way?
Can I identify with the murder or the body?
See Being the Person or Thing – Secrets of Power Dreaming – Emotions and Mood in Dreams
Comments
Hi i just woke up from a nightmare.. I dreamt that i was at a church event up in the woods. Theres were hundreds of us there and the next door cabin happen to be a wedding party from out of town. Anyways i was walking out of the cabin to go see the worshiping on the outside stage when i overheard one of the wedding people say… “I heard on the news today that theres some guys that have been out in the woods for days looking for some LA people to kill, kinda sucks that we were placed next to these guys cuz theyre from LA.” i quickly ran up to him and asked him what he said and whete he heard it. As soon as he gave me that information i turn to my left n i see these 2 cars go by. My mom somehow appears and tell me those guys were up to no good and has just shot up drugs. In my mind im thinking its them so i asked my mom how many and she tells me 3. I quickly run to tell the others and tell them that if anything happens to go hide behind the bathroom cabin that is far from where we were at.( At that moment of the dream i was expect to live and help them out out of the woods). Nobody listened to be and said sure if it happens. I was standing under a cabin as i walk out from under i notice one of the guys on the roof with a shotgun.. I yell the guy next to me and me n him go back under the roof.so he cant see us… I was think bout going thru the bak to seek up on him but i took one step too bak and another guy grab me from behind and sliced my throat. I applied perssure to try to live then i woke up… Im so confused why wud i have a dream like this.. I never had a dream like this.
I’ve been feeling a bit depressed these last few days, but can’t nail down why. Last night I had a dream I committed a double murder. I was at (imaginary) home and I had murdered a member of my (imaginary) neighbors family. A woman about late 20s. I’m not sure how I killed her, but I dismembered her body and disposed of it somehow. Then I murdered a second person in that family, not sure if male/female, but older maybe 40s. Also not sure how I initially killed, but also dismembered the body (saw the blood) and wrapped it up in white sheets and disposed of it in a nearby dumpster. I had someone in the home with me, not sure who, who knew what I had done, but didn’t move to turn me in. I received a few calls from the neighbors asking me if I knew anything and to keep a lookout. I was ‘acting normal’. I looked out the window to see the police at the neighbors house, investigating the missing persons. I knew if they started to look around the neighborhood, they’d find the dumpster and the sheets would lead them to me, and I’d spend the rest of my life in jail. I was worried that I was a psychopath or sociopath for being able to act normal after having committed this bloody heinous crime. And I worried about going to jail for the rest of my life, but figured I surely deserved it. All the people in my dreams and all locations were imaginary. I don’t know how I killed them, but I think the reason is because they were extremely irritating. The strongest emotions in the dream were my concern over my sanity, and my fear of being jailed. I’m at a loss for a deeper meaning.
i had a dream that there was a lot of people dead. they were disposing the bodies on the grass. i was with my 3 year old niece and my sibling. someone was trying to kill us but we got away. the killer were looking for us but they didnt know that we had a gun. they found us then we fought them off but i got shot and i died. what does it mean?
Mama – Well obviously you didn’t die and the dream is not predicting that you will die just yet. See http://dreamhawk.com/dream-encyclopedia/questions-2/#Summing
But you have been seeing or thinking about violence and death, and so you experience death in your dream. And what do you understand about death having experienced it?
I suggest you read and use – http://dreamhawk.com/dream-encyclopedia/secrets-power-dreaming/
Tony
I had a weird dream a couple of days ago that my brother was killing women to prove to me that he can kill. I was an silent onlooker aghast at his behavior. I did not rush to stop him, neither did I believe, with each murder he committed, that he was capable of something like that. However, after he killed the third lady, I started wondering if he had already killed his wife, but then I saw her standing next to me and I was unable to comprehend her emotions. Though I did not feel threatened by him, even in close quarters, I called up our mother to discuss how to handle him and stop him from acting stupid. There was no fear or sense of urgency in the entire dream.
However, last night I dreamed that my brother was chasing my mother to murder her. I do not really remember if he got to her, since I woke up, but what does all of these mean?
I share an excellent relationship with my brother, we have been the best of friends since childhood, he is basically a nice and a caring person and a loving husband.
I just dreamed that police officers came into my house because they are looking for someone. But into my mind i murdered someone ( a male reporter) , but i dont want them to know that i did it. Until such time that we sat, and they begin to show pictures of people that i must i dentify like people for our local showbusiness industry (actress/actors) Then that’s how my dream ended. And i am very confused. Beacuse i thought i really did something wrong that i i did not commit.
i have gun in my hand and killing all the gangsters in the street
I just awoke to a pretty frightening dream. I have dreamt of my brother dying before. This time he wasnt killed in an accident but my mother hired someone unknown to kill him, I was at the scene where he was killed by someone whom I believed shot him from a car. I also remembered afterwards my parents and I sitting around looking at his homework and going through his work like normal, pointing out his mistakes, and I was so frustrated at them. Before the killing, I remembered in the dream we were trying to avoid our mum in the mall. Oh and my brother is still alive. What does all this mean, and can I share the dream with my brother or mother?
Kelly – First of all you need to read the following to understand how dreams work – http://dreamhawk.com/dream-encyclopedia/questions-2/#Summing
Your dream suggest that an influence or attitude that you got from being raised by your mother has led to the death of whatever you feel your brother represent or means to you. Most people are often totally unaware of the experience they take in and how it interacts with them when we love or live with someone. In other words the memories and experience we gather unconsciously change us and are not lost. It is part of you and is symbolised in dreams as a person or event. You have taken in millions of bit of memory, lessons learnt, life experiences along with all the feelings or problems met by loving and living with someone and they are what makes you the person you are. Your dreams tend to put all that in the image of the past person when you are dealing with the influences left in you from the relationship.
You avoid your mum in the dream because of the memories mentioned. It seems that your brother represent an important part of you, so please see http://dreamhawk.com/dream-encyclopedia/acting-on-your-dream/#BeingPerson and http://dreamhawk.com/dream-encyclopedia/secrets-power-dreaming/
Tony
Hello Tony. I just had a dream that disturbed me. Usually I look on dream moods, but as this one was deeper, I looked further. I am in the process of ending a relationship with a person, Monie, in real life and I dreamt about them. They were staying with at their cousin’s house whom I also know. And I went over there and suddenly, the cousin had moved into a new house and said Monie had been talking about me behind my back and another cousin was trying to flirt with me and told me that Monie had moved and was talking to and having sex with some other girl and had kicked the girl out of her own house.
Then I was made aware that Monie was again doing negative things such as selling drugs, (in real life, she had done these things in the past but had stopped.) Then I was somehow aware that she had gotten killed so I was watching this criminal type program on tv showing her story and the police set her up to arrest her. I was so apprehensive watching the program and consciously, I changed the scenario so that the cousins and people watching with me were distracted. Then I heard her voice making a transaction and she came out the store and the police were there and she surrendered, but she had a gun in her hand. Suddenly, a Gun went off and the police accidentally shot her and admitted it on the tv program. I was sad as I watched her bleed and die on the ground. The police said they did all they could to save her. At one point, I thought, well good,maybe get daughter would be better off.
Then the program ended saying she died November 1993 and I was stunned, saying to myself, all this time, I’ve been dating a ghost? Then I woke up. Verystrange, but with elements of truth.
Renee – First of all there is much about dreams most people do not understand. Most people are often totally unaware of the experience they take in and how it interacts with them when we love someone. In other words the memories and experience we gather unconsciously change us and are not lost. It is part of you and is symbolised in dreams as a person or event. You have taken in millions of bit of memory, lessons learnt, life experiences along with all the feelings or problems met by loving and living with someone and they are what makes you the person you are. Your dreams tend to put all that in the image of the past person when you are dealing with the influences left in you from the relationship.
So living with the ghost is a way of saying you are still ‘haunted’ by the influences left in you from the relationship. It might also be saying that the relationship was imagination from the start.
But the dream generally is an expression of your hurt feelings and wanting to see her dead. Dreams are mirrors of what we feel, hope and fear and generally do not admit to ourselves. So please see http://dreamhawk.com/dream-encyclopedia/questions-2/#Summing – http://dreamhawk.com/dream-encyclopedia/acting-on-your-dream/#BeingPerson
Tony
I had a dream where my sister had my mother in a room with a gun and was trying to kill her. She was upset about something but I can’t remember. I remember telling her about the true nature of her ways, like its not mom’s fault you’re to blame. Then she got really calm and asked me to come into the room, but something told me not to so I ran out the house and into the neighbors apartment. I told him what happened then their was a knock at the door and I said no I’m not opening up the door, but it was unlocked and I remember locking it. She came in and shot me in the head twice but I didn’t die I just lied there, but before I woke up from this nightmare I remember her smiling at me.
Evangeline – In the first place it is not your sister you are dreaming of, but your feelings and thoughts about her. True they might reflect her in some way, but they are not her. See http://dreamhawk.com/dream-encyclopedia/questions-2/#Summing
But another thing is that you took a very passive reaction to what your dream sister was doing. See http://dreamhawk.com/dream-dictionary/active-passive/ Instead you could be a very active person – after all it is your own dream that you made up in yourself – there was nobody else there while you slept, just you and your fears, imagination and reactions. So use http://dreamhawk.com/dream-encyclopedia/secrets-power-dreaming/ and http://dreamhawk.com/approaches-to-being/martial-art-of-the-mind/
And give your dream sister hell.
Tony
Hi, I had a dream that I was visiting a friend and her children (in my dream I knew them so well but thinking about it now they were faceless and they aren’t anyone I know) and while we were sitting in the living room talking and playing with her kids we hear a commotion above us (she was living in a apartment building) I then look up and see a little girl in a blue sailor looking dress hanging on the balcony above us, I then go to make a move to get up and thats when we hear the gun shots and at this point I grab my friends youngest child and hug him/her tight so he/she doesn’t see the little girl falling… then the dream jumps to us talking to a police officer saying a man killed his 2 children shooting both of them in the mouths while they were dangling off the balcony… then my dream jumped one more time to an area I grew up in and the bodies in body bags were under some trees in a high school I grew up next to…please help this dream was so gruesome and disturbing it scares me… Thank you
I’ve just awoke to one of the most disturbing nightmares I’ve ever had. At first it started off okay, it was just me and my boyfriend sitting in a flat, which in my dream was his. We were watching TV and messing around acting silly like we usually do when he tells me he killed someone. As the days go by I found out more and more and discover that it was a lady who he had slept with before us getting together, she wanted more but he didn’t. They fought and he killed her but he kept the body in his flat in a bag out in the open, every time family came round they got more and more suspicious and started asking questions. He told me what he did to this woman and how he tortured her but he got emotional when talking about me said he would never hurt me and that he put me on a pedestal. Which in real life he does, he adores me and we recently found out we are expecting a baby. He is such a kind gentle person, loved by everyone that’s why It has shaken me so much I do not understand it.
Becky – Killing in dreams does not mean the same thing as in every day life. For example I have dreamt that I killed three women. But on exploring the dream it was that I had hurt them emotionally, and so killed any love we had.
But as we go deeper in a relationship we meet all the fears we have – our own fears – and so dream about them. So at some time I guess your love has been hurt, even when you were small, and so you fear you might get hurt again – thus the dream.
So turn your fears into love for the baby and your boyfriend.
Tony
I dreamed last night that I murdered my father with a chainsaw and had either taken pictures or videotaped it. In the dream it wasn’t gory but I didn ‘t have any emotion & he just sat there looking at me & allowed me to do it & then I printed off pictures. Other things were happening around me but I can’t remember csuse I’m so bothered by my actions.
In reality my father passed away several years from a disease which I have unfortunatly inherited & struggle with fom time to time. I respect my dad tremendously & love my him. I always knew growing up that his love for me was unconditional.
I am very bothered by this especially the actions & lack of emotion. I wondered if this has more to do with frustrations from the disease than any underlying ill feelings for my dad.
Karen – Remember that in dreams you are in a completely different and altered environment than that of your waking life. I think it would help if the read – http://dreamhawk.com/dream-encyclopedia/questions-2/#Summing as it will explain something of the differences.
So it was not your dad you were cutting up, as you were dealing with what you carry in you from him. It therefore seems to me that you were attacking the disease in you. To understand that please read http://dreamhawk.com/approaches-to-being/lifes-little-secrets/
Tony
I dreamt last night that I was a teenage girl again and my mother welcomed a new stepfather into the household. He was threatening behind closed doors and would threaten to harm my 2 younger brothers, then all of a sudden they both vanished. The rest of my dream I was left devastated searching for them as no one believed me it was him responsible. When I woke up I was nearly in tears, it really unsettled me.
I had a dream last night that me and my fiance were running from the cops and he was holding my hand and they were shooting us in the back. I just felt like I was the one who died and I was more worried for him then myself. I don’t know if. I survived BC I was awakened by a phone call and it was my fiance calling…….
Demonique – What were you doing that you had a conscience about making you run from the police. It suggests you were up to something. So why not imagine standing there and facing the police, then you will find out whatever you feel guilty of.
Don’t forget that while asleep you are alone and could have dreamt of anything, so why running away from the police. See http://dreamhawk.com/dream-encyclopedia/secrets-power-dreaming/ and http://dreamhawk.com/dream-encyclopedia/questions-2/#Summing
Tony
I live in a duplex with my mother living in one side and my aunt living inside the other side of our two family home. In my dream, I was sitting inside a movie theater. However the movie theater was just a small room that resembled my bedroom upstairs. I was just watching a movie with my brother, my cousin, and my grandmother. All of a sudden, a guinea pig scattered across the dark room and was eating some food. I tricked it outside of the bedroom, trapped it inside a bag, and brought it downstairs. This is where I saw the rest of my family murdered. Their heads were nearly cut off their bodies, and there was blood everywhere. I saw the backside of the psycho killer, but I did not know who it was. However, he was invited into my house after he gave us a formal greeting on our front door.
When I saw the faces of my dead family, I ran next door to my aunt’s side of the house with a face and a mood that kept me together. I left three important members of my family left for dead. I imagined in my head that the psycho killer would slit his own throat, and go to hell.
At my aunt’s house, I immediately locked the door. I was quickly questioned by my aunt, her daughter (also another cousin) and her boyfriend(a daily pot head that makes my side of the house smell like skunk). I hurriedly locked the other door, and the boyfriend flipped out about not knowing how to use the contraption on the door. Seconds ago, the D-Bag and my cousin was getting getting kicked out of the house for having a bad future waiting for them. I frequently re-check if the doors are locked, and I realize that the door with the unusual contraption is not staying shut at all. I realized that the d-bag did this. The D-bag waves his hand, and some tall man with one of those chimney poker sticks starts beating me. With my head beginning to bleed, I go over to the bathroom because I feel that i have to pee. However, we have a teeny tiny bathroom that only holds one person at a time. So when I try to open the door, I keep trying to jam it open all the way so my fat butt can finally squeeze through. I hear a crunching sound, and some other shorter man starts beating me with another type of chimney poker stick. Why do these people have these in my dream? I don’t even have a chimney inside the entire house. I remember dialing 911, but that is the last I remember.
Natalia – You start off in a very personal movie theater. And I think that your dream then carries on, as dreams often do, as if you are part of the movie. But it is a horror movie, and I think you are faced by the huge question – What would I do if faced by this horror?
You realise at one point that the D-bag is not someone you can trust in such a situation. You also realise that you must kept a calm face and remain in control. But you do not arrive at a satisfying answer. So I suggest you try using http://dreamhawk.com/dream-encyclopedia/secrets-power-dreaming/ so you can find a way through.
Tony