Bird Birds

This a big entry and is in three parts, the general information first part. The second Bird Situations – and the third Different Birds.

The life cycle of a bird has so many similarities with important human stages of growth we frequently use birds to represent parts of our own deeply felt experience.

In general the bird in your dream can depict imagination, intuition, the mind, freedom from restraints, thoughts or hidden wishes or hopes, or your longings to move beyond limitations or boundaries, or even love or a lover. Because the word is sometimes used to indicate a woman, it can have that meaning – i.e. a ‘bird’.

The meaning depends on the context in which the bird appears in the dream. So in some dreams, especially if the bird is flying high, or you identify and become the bird, it can show an expanded awareness or a greater insight into your life and the meaning of your life. This type of dream usually appears as a large bird that can fly high. This is because wider – or spiritual – awareness is like a higher, overall view of things.

Meeting this enlarged awareness may be painful or frightening as we approach it. The enlargement of what you experience is a form of growth and brings new possibilities, all of which can strip away old ways of life and relationship. This expansion of our viewpoint, the uplift of our emotions or mind, can be a link between the world we experience with our physical senses, and the deep world of our often unconscious passions, intuitions and insights.

But in some dreams birds are messengers – For instance a swallow is a symbol of spring, a rooster can be symbolic of a new day (or a new beginning), doves can be symbolic of love, a relationship or peace, and so forth. Both crows and vultures are symbolic of a “death” or the ending of something.

Bird Situations

A big or huge bird: The power of the collective mind or unconscious. It shows you leaving the limited view of the three dimensional world most of us are trapped in, and enter a world beyond time and space. Imagine you are going to communicate with a part of yourself that has an unlimited amount of information and influence to share with you. What this dimension of yourself gives you will be in direct response to what you ask. So the question, interest or urgent drive in you will be the factor shaping the response.

It may uplift or be felt as threatening; something that can protect or be felt as a threat. If felt as a threat remember that dreams are like computer game, nothing can actually harm you, see Wider awareness – Dream as Computer Game – Personal Unconscious.

Big birds often appear in dreams and the huge bird in the house means contact with a lesser used ability you have, one of being able to have a wider view of who you are and the world you live in. But it is also an invitation to learn to fly with or separate from the bird. You can learn to fly; it is a great way of overcoming fears.

‘During childhood I learned to fly in a long sequence of dreams. Each linked very clearly to the last. I would go to the nearby churchyard and in the beginning I would run along as fast as I could then jump and just manage to extend the jump by a great effort of will. In subsequent practices I managed to gradually extend the jump for many yards; and eventually I could skim along indefinitely. The next stage though was to extend my flight height, and this took enormous effort of will and body. I made active swimming motions and climbed, but only held altitude with great and constant concentration. With further practice still, this clumsy mode of flying was left behind as I learned to use pure motivation, decision or will to lift me into the air and carry me easily and gracefully wherever I wished. At this stage my flying was swift, mobile and without struggle.’ See Flying

Baby bird: It can refer to your children, or to your own childhood memories. Coming out of the shell is a very powerful experience for us as babies. Facing the enormousness of physical experience with all it wonder and dangers is something we have faced. And don’t live with the belief that babies cannot remember such early memories, because it has been shown they do. See Lumpkin – The Baby Who Became Tony

Bird attacking: Fear of ideas, ideals or opinions; verbal or mental (suggestions or suggestive behaviour) attack by others; fear of going beyond ones narrow boundaries. Be daring and face the restrain that holds you back.

Bird descending: A wider view or experience becoming known to you, or becoming available. In practical terms this may be experienced as inspiration or new insights regarding work or creativity, or a bursting of ones previous views or concepts into a wider insight.

Bird in house: Hope that something interesting or new will enter ones life; a wish for new love; a new idea; an intuition or precognition; a new person or event entering your life; or something trapped in you that seeks freedom.

Black or carrion birds: Because such birds often feed on dead animals, they have the association with death or news of death. This may not be connected with someone dying, but perhaps that some project, love or aspect of yourself is being left to die; feelings or fears about death. Or it could be about something you are unaware of but is on the edge of consciousness.

Bluebird: Especially represents the personality or flight of the soul after death. But it can also show the flight of awareness into new or wider experience. The colour gives it a link with the heavens and it is therefore a symbol of your own ability to reach a wider awareness – the spiritual. See Definition of Spirit.

Useful Questions and Hints:

What way am I relating to the bluebird?

Do I feel anything on seeing the bird?

Have I been meditating or doing something uplifting recently?

Dead bird: Threat to ideals or hopes of freedom; feeling life is only material; ones spirit feeling defeated or crushed. Also a loss of sense of beauty or meaning in life; an ideal or hope has died; a flight of imagination or creativity has fallen.

Eggs in a nest: The nest and eggs are saying that you have created inside of you a sort of womb. not for a baby, but for a huge but unexpressed self. You have a huge but latent potential, it is maybe beginning to show in your present life, but will certainly emerge as the eggs are hatched.

Feather: See: feathers.

Fighting birds: Family disputes; arguments about viewpoints.

Flock of birds: Sometimes shows you feeling a deeply intuitive sense of connection with thousands of others, all being moved by life itself flowing through you. Describing his recovery from feelings of being ill at ease within herself, Gloria writes:

As this occurred I had a wonderful sense of being a lovely bird that has been in some way ill all its life. This meant it never flew when the flock took flight. Instead, to deal with its own difficulty it felt feelings of not wanting to fly like the others, of not wanting to be like them and do the meaningless things they do. But with the healing came the realisation I could fly, and I took wing and joined the flock. Now I am a creature of spirit, which I have always been, and I asked the Light to help me learn the ways of ‘flying’ in the spirit.

It can also point to how you add your influence to others socially.

Flying: Rising above something; an escape from a feeling of being trapped, or some fear; independence; freedom; self expression; ones love or thoughts winging its way to someone. The sexual act – possibly because during sex we may feel released and uplifted.

Hatching from the egg: Our birth and infancy; rebirth. Something new and uplifting coming into your life, or coming to life in you.

In cage: Feelings of being restricted or trapped; holding back love or inspiration; safety in restriction. If there are positive feelings around the caged bird, it might suggest the need to withhold love or freedom, but it could suggest feeling trapped in a relationship, especially if there are two birds in the cage.

Leaving nest: Gaining independence; meeting change or leaving a dependent relationship.

Making nest: Home building; parental urges; partnership if with another bird.

Nest: Home; family environment; security; even the womb.

The baby bird: Our own childhood, as in the following example. The old lady in the second example is once more reference to the mother, who the bird is first connected with before moving on to the difficulty of independence.

Freud said the bird represents the male phallus, and flying means the sexual act. Many languages use the word ‘bird’ to mean woman. In Italy it alludes to penis. The bird is also used to denote a sense of death and survival.

The example shows Pauline using the bird to depict her own urge to be independent of her mother’s influence, opinions, likes, dislikes and decisions. Later in the dream her mother hands Pauline the ribbon to hold, suggesting an offer of independence.

Example: ‘I was standing outside the house of my teens, with my mother. She had a very young bird on a long ribbon and the bird was flying very high in the sky. As soon as she lets go the ribbon, a huge black bird attacks the ribboned one.’ Pauline.

The ribbons are a reference to Pauline’s own girlhood. When she lets go of her girlhood, moving toward independent womanhood, she feels threatened by her internal feelings of guilt – i.e. a child feels guilty if it acts differently to what its mother wants. This is the black bird. To become independent we have to find a way of doing what we wish despite this internalised mother. (Internalised means all the standards, self controls she learned from her life with her mother, she now carries within her as her own urges even if absent from her mother.)

Example: ‘An old lady made room for me to sit at the end of one of the three seats of a bus. As we drove away a very large chicken size baby bird flew in. It had short stubby wings and yellow down, but flew expertly. I believe it first landed on the lady and chirped squeakily. But in it’s squeaks it actually spoke, saying it had lost it’s mother. It sounded as if it were crying.’ Andrew.

This dream is clearly about Andrew becoming aware that at some time he felt abandoned by his mother, and this part of him needs helping to grow into greater independence.

Wild bird: An untamed freedom of feelings and mind. If it has landed on you it shows how a new and wonderful attitude or ability has opened in you. If you feel love for the bird it is what has brought about the change in you – the love of or ability to free yourself so you can fly – you can let you feelings and creativity become enormously more effective.

White birds: We all have several levels or floors of our awareness. The ground floor is our every day awareness, limited to our brains memories, limited to today and this life. But we were all seeds planted in our mother’s womb, and all seed carry the memory of the past growth in them, and our seed is thelatest that started from the beginning if life on our earth. So at the level if that enormous memory, we have enormous instinctive information gathered over millions of years, but only dreams has access to it unless we have dug deep into our awareness. The white birds represent this wider or huge awareness. But access it you need to explore the image of the bird by using Being the Person or Thing

Different Birds

blackbird or black bird Unconscious urges. At times we may relate to enormous waves of feeling in an anxious way, and this relationship of anxiety may be represented by a black bird. The bird may be shown attacking something or oneself because that is how we relate to the emotions or energies – i.e. we feel attacked by them. The black bird can also link with feelings about death, the negative aspect of mother, or something unconscious that we are becoming aware of.

chicken If being eaten suggests nourishment. Otherwise a female, or the female in a male; being ‘chicken’ or scared.

Example: A large cockerel was amongst them and to my amused pleasure began immediately to chase the hens. They all ran madly away. My father was there now and said the chickens wouldn’t lay with that chicken chasing them. I said it wasn’t a chicken that a cockerel, and they would soon calm down. My mother now came. I said the chickens would stop running eventually because the cockerel was bigger than they. She said, no, it wasn’t the size, but the manner and attitude of his approach. She meant it caused an instinctive responses them.

When I explored the dream I realised that of course. I am a cockerel that is inwardly a chicken. I am chicken because I won’t see my own homosexuality. I am chicken because I have made myself a passive female. My mother says it is not the size, its the – inner – attitude. Of course, my inner attitude, as a chicken, is changing. I have been the size of a cockerel, but with the soul of a chicken – female.

The cockeral: a male or the male sexual characteristics; confidence.

The hen: The female,  sometimes shown in male behaviout; mother; motherhood; being immersed in motherhood concerns and perhaps not having a life beyond that.

Chicks: This is a reference either to your own babyhood and feelings or events associated with it, or to external baby or babies. This may at times point to vulnerable people or assets.

Example: ‘An old lady made room for me to sit at the end of one of the three seats of a bus. As we drove away a very large chicken size baby bird flew in. It had short stubby wings and yellow down but flew expertly. I believe it first landed on the lady and chirped squeakily. But in it’s squeaks it actually spoke, saying it had lost its mother. It sounded as if it were crying.’ Andrew.

This dream is clearly about Andrew becoming aware that at some time he felt abandoned by his mother, and this part of him needs helping to grow into greater maturity and independence. See Ages of Love

Idioms: chicken feed; chicken hearted; she’s no chicken; cock of the walk; don’t count your chicks/chickens before they are hatched..

crow rook raven Being carrion birds, and so often seen near corpses, they are linked with death or feelings about death; bad news; fear; unconscious feelings. Some people see them as associated with death, mostly because that is how they are used in films. But crows are a group bird and are supportive of their fellows.

It can at times depict the negative aspect of father. The dark intelligence in underhanded people or animals; forces in life that seem to have intelligent direction yet are not outwardly visible.

cormorant Intellectual ideas that have the power to dig deep and bring up unconscious wisdom. Because the cormorant is used to dive and catch fish, it might suggest you are practising some form of introspection or self examination.

crane Inner feelings about wholeness; good luck. The ability to deal harmoniously with the libido or energy within.

cuckoo Wanting to, or feeling your partner is, having sex outside your relationship; pregnant with child from another man than ones partner.

dove Peace; lacking aggressiveness; awareness of one’s potential; religious experience; relatedness. See: religion and dreams.

duck Because a duck can fly and also dive under water it can represent both your ability to raise your awareness, to expand your mind and horizons, and also to look into what is hidden under the surface of life. And its ability to float and swim on the surface of water shows it can survive in the conscious mind.

Idioms can also suggest other meanings such as sitting duck, like a duck takes to water, dead duck and lame duck.

eagle buzzard hawk Sometimes the hunting, providing parent; dominance; a male figure; an uplifting power of feelings or ideas; a protective influence; a threatening influence. Often the ability to develop an integrated vision or perception out of a wide range of experience. This is because the height of the bird and its steady gaze give it unusual perception and wide awareness.

Idioms: Watch like a hawk; eagle eyed.

feather or feathers See: feather.

goose/geese Freedom; your soul; wanderlust; foolishness or group conformity. In some cases you might use the goose as a symbol for life long relationship.

hawk Often a messenger or a far seeing creature. Because it flies high it had an overview of what it surveys. It can therefore signify the spirit or the flight of the soul.

heron A heron is a very still bird and often stands for ages looking into the water. So in your dream it may signify patience and the ability to look deeply into you. As such it may show you things about yourself that are very important.

It catches fish, meaning it brings up things that are usually hidden and are for your personal growth and nourishment. To explore its deeper meaning see Techniques for Exploring your Dreams

owl Because the owl sees in the dark it represents our intuitive sense that ‘sees’ what is happening in the subtle areas of our feeling and experience. This sense ‘feeds’ by watching or acting as an integrating function with the many dark or hidden aspects of our experience and behaviour. Because this part of our mental process is aware of the hidden activities in the depths of our body and mind, it can initiate our conscious self into the mysteries of life and death. If one can imagine having a council of all living things, we would all have in common the drive to reproduce, and there would be huge links of understanding regarding care and rearing of young and perhaps of love for mate. The unconscious seems to have a sense of this synthesis of all life, and the owl, representing it, speaks with this sort of collective wisdom; a wise advisor.

Because the owl as a dream symbol is an actual doorway to the usually hidden side of life, we may sometimes feel fear or danger in regard to it. In some mythologies the owl was connected with death, and might act as a messenger regarding the death of a family member. For instance in Jewish tradition it is unlucky to dream of an owl, but okay to dream of any other bird.

Example: ‘I was standing with my wife at the end of the garden of the house I lived in as a child. We were looking over the fence to the rising meadow beyond. She said, ‘Look at that bird in the tree there.’ On our right, in a small ash tree, an enormous owl perched. It was at least four feet high, the biggest bird I have ever seen. I recognised it in the dream as a greater hooded owl, which was not native to our country. I was so excited I ran into the house to telephone someone – zoo, police, newspapers? – to tell them about the bird. I cannot remember contacting anyone, but felt the bird was there in some way to meet me. Also it was hungry and looking at next door’s bantams. So I wondered what I could give it to eat.’ David P.

This shows the positive side of David’s relationship with his wife. The garden represents the behaviour boundaries which arose from his childhood. But he is growing – the garden – and looking beyond them through his marriage. The amazing bird is the deep feelings he touches because he has a mate like any other natural creature. Out of his mating he becomes aware of drives to build a home – nest – and give himself to his mate. These are natural and are a part of his unconscious or spiritual nature. The bird is a hooded owl which can see in the dark – the unconscious – meaning David is realising things he had never ‘seen’ before. The bird is masked, because David through loving is learning to put his ego aside, which is a necessity for touching the wider dimension of life or the unconscious. The hunger of the bird shows an intimate detail of what David has learned from his wife. She had been working as a waitress and bringing home pieces of chicken for him, saved from her own meal. The spiritual side of David wants to develop this quality of self-giving, which his wife’s love had helped him see.

Idioms: Wise old owl; wisdom of the owl; night owl; owlish – looking wise or solemn. See aura; spiritual life in dreams.

parrot Repeating without judgement what others have said; accepting or copying something without evaluating it. Ability to speak.

peacock Pride; self display; vanity; the desire to be more attractive; sometimes the same as phoenix.

In some cultures the peacock represent the soul or psyche – ones sense of self with all ones individual memories and characteristics. Because the peacock could shed all its beautiful feathers and then grow them again, early Christians saw it as a symbol of resurrection and immortality.

As the peacock is a male bird displaying for the sake of a mate, it can also obviously represent male sexuality in its proud, ostentatious or displaying mode.

Example: There were trees and a grassy patch of ground. A dog was having puppies. But a great flock of small black birds emerged running and skimming over the grass. I heard myself remark, “They are smaller than the others and there are more of them.” Then, from among the trees emerged a large peacock, tail half raised. The dream left me feeling that from small things could emerge something large and beautiful. Mrs E. E.

penguin The penguin hardly ever appears in dreams, or in fact in literature generally, so I have not been able to gather from people’s dreams how they use this symbol. From common associations however, it is likely to represent foolishness; a difficult life situation; coldness in relationships. Because of recent studies of the penguin and the major National Geographic film, the penguin might now depict lasting love and wonderful care and survival skills.

It can also represent something the rare and unusual.

phoenix The ability to find a new impulse, new strength, new growth even in death; the power in oneself to transform the dying, depressed, dark and desperate into new endeavour and growth.

sparrow The ordinary but living parts of you that are special.

stork The soul; symbol of birth or babyhood, and perhaps parenthood; the beauty of the wider awareness of the unconscious.

swallow It promises the ability of a mind that can easily move and shift perspectives and so see different peoples view points, and alo a mind that is intuitive.

swan Grace; beauty; dignity. In mythology often represents the psyche or soul and its connection with a spiritual world; the side of human nature usually hidden because unconscious, often referred to as the spiritual – meaning the consciousness of connection with all life.

The swan in your dream may be linked with an ending of something due to the association with ‘the swan song’ – a final act. It can also suggest amorousness, or the ideal of love in sexuality, and as such may represent virginity or a blend of male and female.

vulture A relative waiting for you to die – or vice versa; people around you trying to live on you – or vice versa; difficult feelings about dependants; an environment of ill will or hopelessness.

white bird Anything white usually depicts thoughts and feeling that are inspirational or uplifting. They are often shown as similar to the white Pegasus, the lower sexual energies lifted into a power of wider awareness.

Wren or very small bird: A vulnerable but exciting intuition – something unusual and valuable entering  your awareness.

Example: My dog looked keenly passed me, excitedly. I began to feel a build-up of excitement and “presence”. This feeling of presence became very intense, so that I knew the woman was now here in spirit. It was unmistakable. At the height of this a tiny bird, like a Wren, flew out of a wall or hedge, and I knew this was the spirit of the woman reborn. I knew that all was well, as she was now spiritually reborn.

Useful Questions and Hints:

Idioms: A bird; Charm the birds from the trees; a bird told me; the bird has flown; bird in the hand; bird of ill omen; free as a bird; odd bird.

Is the bird in my dream expressing any of the important stages of growth such as babyhood, leaving the nest, or making a nest?

What quality or attitude is the bird expressing and how does that relate to me?

What is the rest of the dream indicating about the bird?

Definitely try using Talking As and Processing Dreams.

Comments

-liz 2013-05-03 14:25:21

Hello Tony,
I often have dreams that I will see come true later on and it astonishes a lot of people. I currently had a dream that continues to play back in my head which is what happens when a dream is meant to be something for me. The problem is that it seems more symbolic to me then literal. It was a dream of a white small bird in a cage. In my dream I would take care of it, feed it and loved it so much that I still can feel the attachment now. I felt so fulfilled. One day I woke up and went to feed it and it was sick. I tried cleaning out the cage and feeding it and was worried that it would die. I suddenly realized that the cage was crushing him in a way that it could not move. Finally I decided that I would get it a larger cage in order to help the bird feel better and it worked. I then saw myself riding a brown horse near a beach with certain people that I am not to close to in life and feeling the satisfaction and fulfillment of the love and relationship with my pet bird. The the thing about the bird was that it had a personality. We loved eachother. I am trying to figure out what it all means.

-Paula Saris 2013-04-15 20:26:12

thanks for the insight, the bird i saw, was missing an eye.
although it was life like, i could place it in a small box and it would come to life again.

-amber 2013-04-10 3:01:52

Tony, hi I keep having this reoccurring dream about these huge black crows , and when I say big like a car size maybe. The 1st night i dreamed about them there were two and in this huge cage. Well me and my son had to walk through it to make it out. Well I keep telling my son not to look at them just to keep walking. Well they attacked us and grabbed my son and was about to take him and it was just so bad !! I woke up feeling like I needed to go back to sleep and rescue him. I cried that night. Then the next night is very vague but I remember being stuck in a truck and couldn’t get out because of the birds.There is only two of them and they are beyond mean in my dreams. And those dreams are like dark . Like night time in my dreams. Please help me figure out what this could mean thanks

-Claire 2013-03-16 17:42:23

I had a dream that a yellow canary was trying to get out of it cage, I said to someone in the room, that bird is trying to get out. But everyone thought I was being silly. Then it got out and flew around the room! They all sat around and said we will get it in a minute. Then it flew out window through a little gap! Then it was in the garden and the cat got it! but when I looked at it. It was a butterfly! then I woke up! What does this mean please?? xx

    -Tony Crisp 2013-03-25 12:30:31

    Claire – It probably means that you have recently felt restricted, especially mentally and emotionally. But being in a restricted state if mind offered some sort of protection, so when you escaped into a wider world it felt at first that you couldn’t face the new freedom; but then a sort of death or difficulty arose and you find a beauty of mind and being. Perhaps you are only just managing it, so it will unfold in the future.

    Tony

-David 2013-02-24 7:23:58

I Had a dream about two Dead pigeons that were speaking english. The were large and had very ruffled feathers. When I talked to them, they became silent. I insisted they talked to me and finally one pigeon looked at me and spoke of friendship in a very short phrase. The pigeons were grey and had no eyes. Before I approached these birds, someone said “look they fell out of their nest and died”. What does this mean

-grace 2013-02-03 7:43:23

I dreamt of a black and yellow butterfly that turned in to a white hawk…. The dream has really stuck in my head and I can’t shake the image.

-Jayne 2013-02-01 15:30:06

I took a morning snooze from 730- 9AM and this dream came. Dreamt my younger sister found two small chicks that were fully black in colour and abandoned. She brought it to me and we were going to take care of them. I kept them in the house and fed them. After a while they were getting larger and developing the white head that a bald eagle has. One time when I went to feed them, they came out of the room and was roaming the house on foot, I was worried the cats might attack them but they didn’t. Then they found some toys and playedin that room. My husband asked when will they fly, I said by the next week. They were learning to fly and I felt that it would be dangerous and they weren’t even fully grown by then. I told my husband I think we need to give these birds to someone who knows about eagles to raise. I was worried that they would think we did something illegal by having these birds.

-Susan 2013-01-29 7:31:46

Assistance in leading me in discovery here:
Dream- A view to a wide expanse, prairie type and view to horizon. From the right a dog is walking nearer – a cocker spaniel. As the dog gets much closer I see it has the head of an owl – which does not seem strange. Oh mans best friend is Wisdom or Mans best friend and Wisdom is the awarness that comes when seeing these 2 paired together.
The Cocker Spaniel trait or breed also illicits strong feelings of selflessness or unassuming qualities – a true companion.

-In some ways the dream appears self explanitory – Dog immediately aroused the feelings i mentioned above and recognition of the owl as its head incicated Wisdom present.
Thanks

-Nicole 2013-01-28 20:13:36

Hi Tony,

I need some help interpreting my dreams. My fiance died 5 months ago and about one month after he died I had a dream of a white dove hitting my chest and it woke me up. The dove flew at me and hit my chest and I heard a thump sound and it felt real. Now, just last night I had the same exact dream except it was a black bird that flew at me and hit my chest and woke me up. The bird that is flying at me is not threatening it just fly at my chest, hits it with a thump and I wake. I promise I can feel the bird hit my chest. Does this mean something?

-Deborah Belle 2013-01-28 2:39:51

I had a dream, yesterday morning I would like to share, and if any dream interpreters out there could help with the meaning…
I was lying on the top of a building on a roof top, it was sun set, in its own glory was beautiful.
It was a city I could see the roof tops of other buildings, the first thing that caught my eye was on another roof top was a huge nest. that looked as if it had two baby owls, white owls in the nest moving around, then soon a parent white owl few to the nest, and screamed and it sounded like a screech not a normal owls Hoo, hoo. As I looked both male and female owls went back and forth to the nest as tending to there young.
Making massive movements with their wings and screeching, they seemed to see me and I felt as if they looked into my eyes and we connected.
I looked up to the right and in the building that was next to mine was taller and it had like cathedral rooms and windows. there were people lying on there sides watching what I was watching. it seemed to remind me of roman days, and when I looked at that angle the building it had a gold gleam to it, but the windows were highlighted with light so I could see them along with the glow of gold of the building, we continued to watch this glorious site then I woke. HUmmm

-Heather 2013-01-24 13:41:21

Hello.
I had a dream last evening. I was wondering if you could help me make sense of it?
A very large Black Falcon of egyptian style a bit translucent in a grey sky. Flew and soar high in the sky, coasting downward toward me. and wrapped it’s wings arounds me like a blanket.. disappeared within me..What are your thought? Thank you.

-Alys 2012-12-22 18:46:57

Hello there Tony

I had quite a vivid dream which, while I can interpret it in application to my life to some extent already if i look at my experiences and relationships that have grown together and apart,I feel there may be more significance. Might you enlighten me further? Here it goes as much as I remember:

At the beginning i was journeying by myself by way of clues (a recurrent them for me is search and investigation). Each stage had some clue from the last I had to follow, for example there were two letters from the name of someone that I just met at the beginning of a road name, and so I would take that and journey further. By the end it seemed that out of the people I was meeting, a mixture of men and women, none of them particularly significant, an alliance was ultimately forming, and the setting changed from a town to like a tree by a lake. I was with two, plump, older by a decade or less women (I’m 26), who i seemed to have formed an alliance with me or at least circumstance put us together. one was a black, maternal, regal woman but who was more like my sister, the other had less significance but was a white woman equally plump. They seemed doubtful of the future and of life’s challenges, and I was encouraging them that all was well with undertones that we must stick together and keep faith in our divine prosperity, that we shall secure it.

We decided to sleep side by side on the lakeside/shore. I slept in between these two women. It was reminiscent of when I was a child and slept with my mother/parents and I would squeeze right in between them and their arms would be sort of covering my ears. I sought that same comfort and was snuggled right in. I was conscious in my dream of how sleeping between these two women gave me the same sense of security and peace as when I was a child. We then woke at what seemed to be dawn, and the black woman got up and went toward what i understood to be her ‘kingdom’ or town, where she would have to face her challenges and adversities. I looked at where she lay to my right and found that under us was a dead, crow-looking bird, not just dead but drenched as if the lake’s tide had washed up underneath us while we slept. The other woman also left where we slept and I saw again the same thing under her on my left. Two dead and drenched crows, either side of me as i still laid there. It also seemed/felt as if whilst both crows were under the women more than under me, the beaks of these crows had been touching, only just, my arms while I slept. I wasn’t entirely indifferent in the dream itself to this sight… the contrast, of elevated sisterly bonding before we slept, to the sight of this suffocated/drowned crows when we woke obviously created meaning..

Many thanks in advance

    -Tony Crisp 2012-12-23 11:43:29

    Alys – Obviously the clues you are following are the inner clues you understand from your life experience – inner and outer. The road is the way you will travel for some time, and you are doing well to have come so far at 26.

    The two companions I believe are aspects of yourself you developed or attained during the present life. The black woman is a link with the dark side of yourself, the unconscious, and brings you support and instruction from your intuitive and instinctive nature. The white woman is also a support and is what you gained and absorbed consciously from your parents. It seems that you had parents who you were allowed close to, and they are both – the black and the white – part of what has supported you and given you strength to come as far as you have.

    But then the sleep and awakening to a new day. A day that has death in it, for to go further in the road you are travelling you need to meet and experience death – psychologically – and that is part of life. I get the impression that to some extent you were partly suffocated by the love and care you received – as shown by the dead birds. That is not a bad thing, but it is now that it will leave you to develop independence. Independence is strange thing, because it is a lifelong journey, and yet we are never actually independent. But that is what the death is about and it is like an initiation into a new chapter of your life. Remember to keep the faith in our divine prosperity, and that we shall all secure it.

    Here is a man’s dream describing the treasure you have within you, and the battle we face to get it.

    “I woke early his morning to pee. As I woke I was aware of having been dreaming, but I could not remember what the dream was. However, I was experiencing a strong feeling of being connected with all things. I had a deep sense of being part of everything, and of everything being a part of me. It was very real and I had a spontaneous image of standing in a great garden, an immense place of creation and unity – the Garden of Eden feeling. As this happened I had an insight that most of the people in the world do not have, and perhaps do not want to be a part of this unity. This thought, in the way it was experienced was completely new to me. I couldn’t understand why anyone would not want to experience this wonder and communion. I knew I was at the wedding feast, the celebration of life or creation. It was a wonderful feeling to be a part of this mystery. Therefore the realisation that many people did not want this was slightly shocking or unnerving. It made me ask myself the question of whether I was naive, perhaps not seeing or realising something. This realisation went on to the sense that in fact a sort of battle was going on between those who were part of the celebration, and those who didn’t want it. I thought that those who didn’t want it were perhaps frightened of losing the control they thought they had over their life and the world. I knew I was playing a part in this battle or struggle.”

    Tony

      -Alys 2013-03-09 22:00:30

      Hi Tony

      You replied to me on 2012-12-23 at 11:43.

      I just wanted to thank you for the insight you offered me, and let you know how helpful your encouragement was for me.

      Whilst I believe the dream will have many-fold relevance over time and eternally, past, present and future, given the events that followed immediately after, it has very much left an imprint in my consciousness. My mother went into hospital 5 days later, and this is part of a long-standing, uncertain narrative in my life that is now seeing a shift in its experience both now and for the future.

      Your reading of it, precisely, also gave me a lot of strength. Regularly.

      I would love to share this further with you, though might take up the whole page. I have no problems sharing so it really is with your consent only that I go into the great detail I feel compelled to give attention to.. Really I would like your input, so equally am happy to email my experiences directly to you, if possible.

      I thank you again wholeheartedly for your gift in kindness and light to me and wish much peace and light in return.

      Yours,

      Alys

        -Tony Crisp 2013-03-10 11:15:40

        Alys – Thank you so much for sending the words and thanks you sent.

        By all means write.

        Tony

          -Alys 2013-03-11 18:52:43

          Thanks, Tony!

          I have written more directly to you, however I will post this extract, to share my experiences with others who may come here looking for answers and how they might move forward:

          When I first read your reply, I didn’t really know what to make of it. Whilst I have understood my dreams are a reflection of my experiences and feelings, I had never really fully considered that the people, animals and entities were but projections of myself, and dialogues having the potential for a profound message to myself, from myself. As I write this, I am reminded of a line of one of Rumi’s poems: “Pilgrim, Pilgrimage and Road, was but Myself toward Myself, and Your arrival but Myself at my own Door.”

          You offered me the connection with my mother, who suffers from MS and for whom I have been caring since I was 18. You also identified the matter of dependence and independence. But the true magnitude of your insights was only clear 5 days later, when she fell unconscious due to an untreated infection, and was admitted to hospital. She was there for 7 weeks in all, so has only recently returned home.

          She had been to hospital before for the same reasons, but always A&E and always home within a week, with no real view of her needs long term and how to prevent the same thing happening again. This time, however, the experience was different, and I was conscious of what you had said. She was sent to a rehabilitation hospital, where the level of care was outstanding compared to anything we had ever experienced. Whilst it was a very difficult time for us as a family, I took the event as a blessing, and as an opportunity for something better and encouraged my family and mother to think of it as the same. This has enabled us to maximise the creative, positive potential of the situation we found ourselves in.

          Not only this, but things are very different now she is home. The level of care, or dependence, has increased, but in that now we have two carers visiting three times a day. Before, my mother and her partner were devoutly resistant to outside help. This placed a lot of pressure on me, because I could not accept the conditions they were submitting to living in. So, in theory, I have the makings of the true independence, or a better word is simply the peace, I have been waiting for. It’s not quite with me yet as there are still some financial and logistical battles to fight to see this through, but, again and again, your repetition to me, of what I told the projections of myself in my dream, “to have faith in our divine prosperity, that we will secure it” resonates continually. My consciousness knows that I spoke to myself, and that I have all the light, love and power I need within myself, to see this life and my family’s contentment through.

          So, because you showed me this light, I had to share this wonderful experience with you.

          I can’t help but feel my own interpretations still have some basic relevance, since I have also incorporated these into how I deal with certain people and what I expect from people to whom I offer some guidance, but really your input I feel was the most transcendent, and empowering.

          Thank you so much once again, Tony. You truly are a blessing for all.

          Best and well wishes to all,

          Alys

-Eleanore 2012-12-12 1:06:50

Relating to the penguins, i dreamt last night that my husband and i were walking down a street with houses on either side, it was night and a bit stormy, 4 penguins all different types and sizes ran past us in the opposite directions they seemed abit scared…they were amazingly coloured and patterned and we just watched them run past. Thats all i remember from dreaming last night. Just wondering if you had any insight on that? Would be greatly appreciated please. Thankyou Elle

-Gerard 2012-11-29 21:57:48

I had this messed up dream where I saw hens and baby chicks and a duck.
The main thing I saw was the duck attacking the hens. The hens had scars and were bleeding and the duck eat or swallowing the baby chicks. I would smack thwart duck and tell it no don’t eat them! It would spit them out sometimes but often not. If I was quick the chick would be alive

Please tell what this messed up dream means

-Nancy S 2012-10-15 3:21:14

Hi,
In my dream I saw an Owl on a tree branch and then it flew off the branch heading to the right of me (as if you were looking at the Owl). As the Owl took flight, I could see the skyline of a big city in the background. The Owl also might have been carrying something either in it’s mouth or holding it with its feet. What would this mean? Please reply. Thank you! Nancy

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