Out Of Body Experiences – Transcending the Body Experience

Because out of body experiences occur while the person is apparently asleep, they can be considered as manifestations of sleep phenomena, but they do not have the same characteristics as a typical dream. Even so the experiences most people meet are still in symbolic language – they are still dreaming. This is shown as them seeing themselves floating out of their body – which if we see through its symbolism is an interpretation of their sense of leaving one dimension and entering another. Whenever we dream we are out of our awareness of having a body, so there is never really any leaving the body, so I believe it be better named as bodiless experience.

While we sleep our conscious self is largely or totally unconscious, and while we dream our voluntary muscles are paralysed – therefore another will or motivating force moves our body. So we have a Conscious Will, and what I will call a Life Will. The first one we have experience of as we can move our arm or speak in everyday activities; but the second will is in full operation when we sleep and in fact runs all our important life processes like heart beat, breating, digestion and also dreams.

So humans live in two very different dimensions. The one most people identify with is the three dimensional physical world of the body. There a lot of rules to learn in this world; when very young we learn not to touch hot things; not to rush out into a road with moving cars. But as adults we have learnt not to step out into space while at a height because we will fall and have a major injury or die.

The second dimension is totally different and is experienced in dreams or deep levels of our mind/consciousness. It will surprise many people to realise that in this dimension you have no physical body – the body is not needed – although most people are so locked into thinking that their reality is their body, that they create a body image of themselves.

We haven’t actually left our body, but our consciousness has shifted to the quantum level, in which is beyond space and time. But as usual with our dreaming, we try to fit it into our waking level of experience. See There is a Huge Change Happening

It should not be called Out of Body Experience, but Transcending Body Experience.  In the past we were taught that the basic part of us is atoms. So as such we were just physical bodies, with a physical brain, and of course as a physical body we know it can be destroyed or die. But in 1900 an amazing new science was born –  quantum. It said that our basic being is not atoms but sub-if atomic-particles, energy, and these questioned much of past statements.

The implications of the quantum theorem are enormous. Something can be in two places at once. Apparently distant objects, or people, are intricately linked in an immediate way. There is no separate existence as we previously thought. Our view of the world is not one supported by the facts of physics. Time and space are transcended. David Bohm, an eminent physicist, goes as far as to say that all things in our observable universe are inextricable linked. Nothing has separate existence.

So dreams are seldom verifiable observations of external events occurring at the same time as the dream. Out of body experiences (OBE’s) frequently display an accurate observation of external events, not available to the sleeping person except by extraordinary means. This suggests that human consciousness is not limited to the limited range of awareness the body senses give. See Sleep Paralysis

Example: ‘At about two or three in the morning my wife Brenda and I were suddenly awoken from sleep by a noise. As we lifted our heads to hear we identified it as the handle on our children’s bedroom door being turned. The house only had two bedrooms, and the children’s room was directly opposite ours. Both of us had the same thought – ‘Oh no, it’s the children again.’ Much to our annoyance they had been waking in the middle of the night claiming it was morning and time to play. We had tried to suppress it, but here it was again.

As these thoughts went through our minds we heard the sound of feet clomping down the stairs. This was strange as the children usually stayed in their room. Brenda got up determined to get whoever it was back into bed. I heard her switch the light on, go down the stairs, switch the sitting room light on, and I followed her via the sounds of her movement as she looked in the kitchen and even toilet – we didn’t have a bathroom. Then up she came again and opened the children’s door – strange because we had assumed it had been opened. When she came back into our room she looked puzzled and a little scared. ‘They’re all asleep and in bed’ she said.

We talked over the mystery for some time trying to understand just how we had heard the door handle rattle then footsteps going down the stairs, yet the door wasn’t open. Also, the door handles on our doors were too high for the children to reach without standing on a chair. There was a stool in the children’s bedroom they used for that, yet it wasn’t even near the door when Brenda opened it.

Having no answer to the puzzle we stopped talking and settled to wait for sleep again. Suddenly a noise came from the children’s bedroom. It sounded like the stool being dragged and then the door handle turning again but the door not opening. ‘You go this time’ Brenda said, obviously disturbed.

I opened our door quickly just in time to see the opposite door handle turn again. Still the door didn’t open. I reached across, turned the handle and slowly opened the door. It stopped as something was blocking it. Just then my daughter Helen’s small face peered around the door – high because she was standing on the stool. Puzzled by what had happened, I was careful what I said to her. ‘What do you want love?’ I asked.

Unperturbed she replied, ‘I want to go to the toilet.’ The toilet was downstairs, through the sitting room, and through the kitchen.

Now I had a clue so asked, ‘Did you go downstairs before?’

‘Yes’ she said, ‘but mummy sent me back to bed!’.’ Tony C.

This is an unusual example of an OBE. Mostly they are described from the point of view of the person projecting and are therefore difficult to corroborate. Here, three people experience the OBE in their own way. From Tony and Brenda’s point of view what happened caused sensory stimuli, but only auditory. Helen’s statement says that she was sure she had physically walked down the stairs and been sent back to bed by her mother. Tony and Brenda felt there was a direct connection between what they were thinking and feeling – ‘get the children back to bed’ – and what Helen experienced as an objective reality.

OBE’s have been reported thousands of times in every culture and in every period of history. A more general experience of OBE than the above might include a feeling of rushing along a tunnel or release from a tight place prior to the awareness of independence from the body. In this first stage some people experience a sense of physical paralysis which may be frightening. Their awareness then seems to become an observing point outside the body, as well as the sense of paralysis. There is usually an intense awareness of oneself and surroundings, unlike dreaming or even lucidity. Some projectors feel they are even more vitally aware and rational than during the waking state. Looking back on ones body may occur here. At this very first stage of complete independence some people experience intense fear. This is most likely due to fearing that one is dying. I believe there is an unconscious connection between the exteriorisation of ones awareness and death. 

While in the RAF stationed in Germany, I had read that some people travelled huge distances while asleep feeling they have left their body. I had gone to bed early trying to do this, failed and went to sleep. Then I was awoken by a feeling of rushing upward followed by a sense of sudden expansion, which I likened to a cork being pulled out of a wine bottle.

Then I looked down on my sleeping body. Suddenly I was terrified. I didn’t at the time understand this terror, but the thought came to me in a flash that this what was I had read about – i.e. people leaving their body in projection. The fear immediately vanished to be replaced by uncontrollable laughter. Looking back I think the terror arose because I was certain I was dying. The laughter came at the realisation this was not so, and was a release of tension brought about by the terror.

Then I was travelling across the German countryside where I was living, curled up with my knees to my chest. I could clearly see the countryside below me, and I noticed what were like radiations coming from certain points below. I wondered at the time whether they were from people praying or sending thoughts.  Then I was over the sea and could observe the large amount of shipping near a Dutch harbour, but suddenly I found myself standing in our sitting room at home in London. It was such an astonishing experience I stood in shock looking down at my body, feeling it and trying to understand.

My body felt solid and real and I was dressed in outdoor clothes not my pajamas. Then with great enthusiasm I looked up and saw my mother sitting alone knitting, our Alsatian dog lying asleep in front of the gas fire. I felt sure my mother would see me because I felt physically present and absolutely and vitally awake in a way I had never experienced before. So I called out to her, “Mum, look what has happened.” She stopped knitting for a moment but obviously didn’t see me or hear me. So I felt if I shouted this would reach her. “Mum” I shouted, “look it’s me Tony”.
My dog Vincent in front of the gas fire – 1956

There was no obvious sign that she had heard me, but two things did happen. One was that I saw or realised that she had an upstairs side of her and a downstairs side. Her upstairs (conscious) side had no awareness of me, but her downstairs side (unconscious) gave me a wonderful welcome and I had the awareness of us knowing each other in a formless love. Then at the same time my dog must have heard me shout because he woke and came rushing to me and was so full of love for me he rushed around where I stood barking and showing his joy. I later heard from my mother saying she had had been alone that night as my father was out, and she had seen the dog get up and bark and jump around for no apparent reason.

I learned enormous and important lessons from that. I saw that because I was  present without a physical body my mother couldn’t hear me. She needed physical sound to know I was present, but yet another part of her knew and responded.  From that I realised that I was dreaming, because I was also asleep in ‘Germany, and dressed in pyjamas, but here in this place body felt solid and real and I was dressed in outdoor clothes not my pajamas. I also realised that if my mother had thought of me and spoken to me in thought I would know, even though she might not be able to hear my reply – unless she was a medium or learned to listen to thoughts. The reason being that in the body most people cannot communicate via thoughts.

Once the awareness is independent of the body, the boundaries of time and space as they are known in the body do not exist. One can easily pass through walls, fly, travel to or immediately be in a far distant place, witnessing what may be, or appears to be, physically real there. We lived through a period where we saw only our physical structure which will be wiped out. Now science has seen that we are each fundamentally quantum – energy – and from this view they cannot find death. Ancient people saw the same thing and gave different words to describe it.  

Sir Auckland Geddes, an eminent British Anatomist, describes his own OBE, which contains many of these features.

Example: Becoming suddenly and violently ill with gastro-enteritis he quickly became unable to move or phone for help. As this was occurring he noticed he had an ‘A’ and a ‘B’ consciousness. The ‘A’ was his normal awareness, and the ‘B’ was external to his body watching. From the ‘B’ self he could see not only his body, but also the house, garden and surrounds. He need only think of a friend or place and immediately he was there and was later able to find confirmation for his observations. In looking at his body, he noticed that the brain was only an end organ, like a condensing plate, upon which memory and awareness played. The mind, he said, was not in the brain, the brain was in the mind, like a radio in the play of signals. He then observed his daughter come in and discover his condition, saw her telephone a doctor friend, and saw the doctor also at the same time.

As OBE’s often occur at times of stress, a near-death-experience, great pain, or in deep withdrawal, they may have a link with such human and animal situations. In other words, OBE’s may have developed as an evolutionary or survival method to deal with death, near death, pain or stress.

For instance, many cases of OBE occur in a near death situation, where a person has ‘died’ of a heart attack for instance, and is later revived. Because of this there are attempts to consider the possibility of survival of death through study of these cases. In fact many people after experiencing an OBE have a very different view of death than prior to their experience. From the opposite point of view, that of the external observer who is not asleep, many OBE’s have been witnessed by relatives of people actually dying through war or accident. During the two world wars, many cases were reported and later corroborated, of seeing the dying person appear, and of them telling of their death, or silently communicating it. I believe this points out the deep connection between an OBE and dying, pain and stress. I have felt that the OBE is in fact the remains of something that existed in primitive animals as a survival mechanism. It was a way of communicating the cause of death to those with genetic bonding. This awareness would help in avoiding the same death.

Early attempts to explain OBE’s suggested a subtle or astral body, which is a double of our physical and mental self, but able to pass through walls and transcend the physical limitations of distance. It was said to be connected to the physical body during an OBE by a silver cord – a life line which kept the physical body alive. This is similar to the concept that the people we dream about are not creations of our own psyche, but real in their own right. This theory has limitations as it can be observed that many people in this condition have no silver cord, and have no body at all, but are simply a bodiless observer, or are an animal, a geometrical shape, a colour or sound. Analysis of many OBE’s therefore suggests that the ‘body’ and many of the other aspects of the experience are as much a creation of ones psyche as are the objects and people in a dream. It is tempting to think that we are our body, and any attack on it in dreams is an attack on us. But this is not so. See: identity and the dreamer.

Example: Had a very unusual dream last night. I was in an outdoor environment. It seemed a bit dark, or maybe morbid is the right word. I was with other people but none of them stood out to remain in memory. There was a definite awareness though of being near to a place that was haunted, and that a man was in trouble in the haunted place.

I decided to go and see if I could sort out the problem. I walked down a slope to where the centre of the haunting existed. It was an open space with an old double-decker bus in it. The only person on the bus was a middle-aged man who was sitting on the top deck leaning out of a window on the right hand side of the bus. I stood beneath him and looked up. He was staring in a glazed way and didn’t see me. I could see and feel that he was being hit by fantasies or hallucinations by whatever was the source of the haunting. This invasion of his mind was grabbing his attention so fully that he wasn’t aware of his surrounding or of me. I was sure that if he went any deeper into this mind stuff he wouldn’t be able to pull out. I waved my hand in his line of vision and banged my hand on the bus to make a noise and get his attention. At first it didn’t seem as if I would bring him out of it, but after a while he looked at me.

I shouted at him to pull out. I said that he had a wife and some more years of his life to live, so why lose himself into this entrancement. This didn’t seem to grab him so I shouted again and said that he would eventually slip into this empty mind world anyway – at death – so why not live with his wife the remaining years of his life. I was sure that if he lost awareness he would let himself starve.

I was aware that what he desired was to slip away into the void, into the awareness of the one life in which he lost any awareness of self. But I banged and shouted and he became more ‘present’. I then felt I had to confront whatever was the source of the powerful ‘haunting’ that was pulling him into the inner mind. I turned away from the man and saw just to my right a short distance from the bus an animal that was the ‘haunter’. It was a mammal of no particular type – a bit like a mixture of dog, rat and guinea pig. It seemed very ordinary and tame, and stood looking at me. I walked toward it and stretched out my hand. It was a tan colour with short fur and gave a feeling of being okay to approach, so I touched it to stroke. This was okay and I was thinking there was no problem when the creature leapt at my throat in a flash of movement and ripped my throat out.

This sounds disturbing but I simply observed this and thought to myself that stroking and trying to be friendly was no way of dealing with this thing. It was as if I was in command of the imagery in that I simply formed another body. The creature ripped out my throat again and dived into my body to eat it. I woke at this point and went for a pee. When I went back to sleep I carried on with the dream. The only way that felt as if I might deal with the creature was to have the meditative state of not having any goals, and not feeling panic at it’s attacks. In fact apart from the gory imagery, there was nothing to be frightened of, as the creature was only attacking my dream image of myself. As I wasn’t identified with that, it couldn’t hurt me. That was the end of the dream.

This means the person’s own unconscious concepts of self seem to be the factor which shapes the form of the OBE. If, therefore, one feels sure one must travel to a distant point, then in the OBE one travels. If one believes one is immediately there by the power of thought, one is there. If one cannot conceive of existing without a body, then one has a body, and so on. The silver cord, from this point of view, exists simply because the ‘dreamer’ feels it is necessary. If the second example is read, it can be seen that Tony at one point travels, then suddenly the travelling through the air ends and he is immediately hundreds of miles away in London. Also, although his sleeping body was in pyjamas, his projected body is wearing outdoor clothes, showing he is not experiencing himself as an ‘astral double’ or copy of his sleeping self. He has no sign of any silver cord, and his own impression afterwards was that the experience was largely a creation of imagery to suit his own beliefs, except that in some way it interfaced with reality. Therefore any theory about OBE’s needs to explain the mixture of reality and subjective experience in such events. For example, in this instance, Tony’s dog had an awareness of him, verified by Tony’s mother, and yet Tony’s experiences were not a part of the ‘real’ world in the usual sense.

Something that is very apparent from recorded experience of those who have died is that many people after death still feel that the body that died is them, and some never ever are able to let go of it. See Steiner Life after death

In a nutshell, the world of the OBE is created by the concepts of the ‘dreamer’. This world is experienced as physically real, in a similar way to the world of dreams. Yet it is neither a dream in the usual sense, nor is it a dream in which the person is highly lucid. There is a different quality about it than either dreaming or lucidity. The difference is that during an OBE the physical world can also be experienced and witnessed. So in trying to analyse events during an OBE, we must discover what aspects are created out of unconsciously held concepts, and what are witnessed physical world events or objects. Whatever the answer, this view of the OBE suggests there is no need for a person to travel to a site, or to have a silver cord, or in fact any sort of body at all.

What emerges is that consciousness can at certain times completely go beyond the limitations of space, location and time we usually accept. For instance it is very real for us to accept that if we wish to personally experience the streets of Tokyo or New York we will have to transport our body to those locations. If we go to New York we cannot at the same time experience Tokyo. With an OBE these rules do not apply. Consciousness does not have to travel. In some way it is already a timeless blanket throughout space. The OBE appears to be a process in which the person focuses on a particular spot, or several spots at once, within that three dimensional blanket. To accomplish the focusing they may utilise personal forms of imagery such as travelling to the spot, or going down a tunnel to the site, or having a projected body. But this imagery, although deeply experienced, appears to be only an aid to focusing awareness away from ones usual physical senses onto the ‘timeless blanket’ of consciousness pervading all space. See Big Bang.

This approach explains many aspects of the OBE, but there is still not a clear concept of what the relationship with the physical world is. If there is survival of death, then the OBE may be an anticipatory form, or a preparatory condition leading to the new form.

Many people mistake various other sleep experiences for an OBE. In fact the concept of a soul or spirit distinct from the body arose in pre-history from the experience of a dreamer going to a distant place while they slept. The dream of the distant or strange place was assumed to mean the dreamer actually travelled to somewhere else. But of course, actual experiences of OBE also occurred as frequently to our forebears as they do to us today.

The mistaken OBE can take many forms, as already explained. One of the most convincing however, is that occurring during the feeling of paralysis during the dream state.

What happens is that during the lucid experience of sleep paralysis the body senses are shut off and the person feels that they have left their body. But that is a symptom of lucidly being aware of the sleep state. See bodiless- sleep yet awake; paralysis while asleep.

See: Dimensions of Human Experience – Lucidity – altered states of consciousness; archetype of death and rebirth; death and dreams; ghost; hallucinations and hallucinogens.

Comments

-Bryant 2018-05-02 10:22:42

Thanks for your insight Tony. I hope to have the experience again to see the beings. I have seen them many times during my life but it was as if they visited me. On the last occasion, I visited them. They have given me insight into the fabric of reality, once I saw a column of light that extended infinitely into space with a circle of souls too numerous to count circling around the column in black space. Each soul was praying with what I thought were funny hats but later found out they were harmonic symbols for the creation of matter. For the last instance of meeting the beings, during my waking life I was faced with making a choice between lust and love three times in the same day in three different stances. These instances had to do with love for others not romantic love. It became apparent to me that this out of body stuff causes a behavioral change in waking life. It made me love humanity.

    -Tony Crisp 2018-05-02 13:28:34

    Bryant – As said, the choices we make create the future we then experience. The good thing about dreams is that we can choose any path and thereby experience where it leads, so can choose again if we need to having learned.

    The beings you mentioned are still in your dream life, are full of images or symbols. I have tried to give an explanation of these different levels in https://dreamhawk.com/dream-encyclopedia/dimensions-of-human-experience/ Because we tend to fall back in to the feeling of physical sensing and dreams are an expression of that.

    I quote from https://dreamhawk.com/dream-encyclopedia/lucidity/ – “I began to see and understand, that what we call our personality, is a tiny point of awareness dipped into the sensory experience of the body. Behind that point lies an immensity that in one sense is not at all mysterious. The immensity is there for all of us to see as the existence and workings of our body and consciousness, that we are mostly unaware of.

    Also, over the years, I experienced a growing sureness, that we, our sense of having separate existence, our personality, is a tiny part of a huge and powerful under-being; a being that is incredibly creative – after all it is the creative action that brought us into our life and continues to keep our body and mind working – and with wisdom beyond our understanding, but is not an intellectual, symbol or word based consciousness.

    The next barrier to pass through was dream symbolism. People try to understand their dreams by thinking about them, but dreams arose millions of years ago in creatures without any ability to think; they were creatures who reacted and had only a small behavioural range. We too are living life forms whose dreams arise out of the ancient workings that are how Life has dreamt for a long time. Here is how the Life process deals with this when it is allowed to surface.”

    “I became lucid in my dream and realised that I could move deeper. I was already at the level of seeing into the inner workings of the body so asked the question is there anything else. Suddenly I was plunged into bodiless awareness. I had been here many years previous and so I was at ease with it. In the past I had seen that this was the apparent nothingness that is the primal level, and out of it everything flowed. But being curious I asked if there was anything beyond this. I was amazed at what happened next. I was at the same time bodiless, space less and timeless existence, and also here and now in everyday waking life. I had always thought that the physical existence and the holy of holies, the Core Self, were completely and utterly separated and beyond each other; and here I was experiencing the marriage of such enormous opposites.”
    T

-Bryant 2018-04-26 10:53:38

Hi Tony,
Twice recently, I have fallen asleep within a dream. The first took place while dreaming I sat on the shore of the ocean. The water was crystal blue and it was as warm as bathtub water. I was so content sitting on the edge that I fell asleep. I felt an intense sense of depth and blackness. I awoke. The second dream, I entered my old bed. The one I slept in as a youth. I lay down and immediately fell asleep. I immediately felt my “self” lifted out of the body. I felt a deep sense of self, depth and blackness. I felt myself sink and hover. I hoped to see the beings. Once I had an experience that was not out of body. I could sense my body as I was in a different state. In the new state, all my senses were combined. Sight, sound, feeling was one sense. My eyes were closed but I could see. At the same time, I could sense my body laying on the couch sleep. I was aware of the feeling of the couch pressed against my side, the pillow. I knew that I was there but I was aware of the other sensation of not being there simultaneously. I was aware of these things simultaneously. In this new state there was no physical mass. I was aware of three beings. I say beings because they had a human like form but had no arms, legs or facial attributes. They stood at my periphery. I became fearful and immediately went back into the body awareness. It was as vivid as my waking state. I wrote it down immediately. This happened during a time of transition in my life.

    -Tony Crisp 2018-04-29 12:56:37

    Bryant – It wasn’t a time of transition from what your dreams tell me but a time when your being was trying to go through a tremendous transcendence. For each of us are immersed in a ‘river’ of constant change. If you think about it you have been carried, pushed, impelled by this current as you were moved through babyhood, childhood, teenage and adulthood. And as we passed through these changes we died to our old self in order to change to the new. It is the current of Life. This current then carries us on through old age and through the gates of death. All the time we are faced by decisions, and each decision directs us on a different path, helping to create our future. And this is a force of growth and change – not just physical or emotional but spiritual.

    For again and again you have approached experiencing the ultimate in consciousness but have awoken, perhaps as a way of avoiding that in fact you are bodiless awareness.

    We build our identity and our sense of self of personality out of the many interactions with other people and the world. In a real sense we create each other by believing in and communicating with each other. With prolonged absence of other people and events, and especially if we lose our ‘noises’ and body awareness, we feel we – our sense of identity – is disappearing or dying. People immersed in a sensory deprivation tank begin to lose a clear sense of themselves, and can result in anxiety, hallucinations and depression.

    Example: Also, it struck me with tremendous force that the experience of waking consciousness in the body, however we explained it, was reality. Death, however we explained it, was also reality. What was happening was that I continued to experience this changed reality of death. I began to see how this realisation applied to other things. That is that consciousness could exist beyond physical boundaries. I saw this part of the experience was a summing up of all other experience. It was that our consciousness, in it basic state is in a bodiless condition.

    Here lies the point of passage from one order of existence to another.

    Example: Then something arose that I don’t think I have ever seen before in this way, or from this perspective. It started with me seeing that I had largely learned to drop a role, and the person I am becoming is largely outside of a role. My direction is not in a particular role. Yet I keep trying to drop back into old roles, and in doing so I am missing the point of growth that is of importance to me. In relationship with Marta for instance, I was not standing in any particular role when she met me. She took me for ‘one of hers’. I mean by this she saw me as a person with similar aims and beliefs. She let me in on her patch, her work scene. This is a bit like being in a state where I might look like a starling, and the starlings let me sit with them and share their food and branch. One doesn’t have to look like them physically to do this, only to have the same spirit, an inner form that can adapt to many shapes. So, I could then move to sit with the pigeons and be accepted by them. This is a form of survival that borders on the spiritual, as the great bodiless spiritual beings have so learned this lesson that they are a part of all living things, and share their energy, and energies we cannot yet touch.

    You began to see beings that had no face or arms, trying to show you they had moved beyond personality and could be bodiless; but fear held you back. Don’t worry, when I first began this journey I wasn’t frightened, I was terrified.

    Example: I experienced having no sense of having a body and floated in darkness.
    I wondered if there were others but could sense no one. Then I began to feel a vibration and this sense of being absorbed was happening and the waves of sparkling radiance were lifting me up and then down like waves flowing through me or in me. I sensed it as waves rolling around the earth, generating from the earth’s power or magnetism. These waves roll around and therefore through all of us, and I felt sure I was experiencing this. I felt I was riding these beautiful waves. But although I was experiencing it I was also wondering what it was all about. What is this all about? What am I learning from this?

    I realised that it is a passing back into the living processes that gave birth to us, out of which living creatures and humanity have emerged. I am learning that mystery. I experience that as such a huge and wonderful mystery and cried out, not in pain but at the wonder of it, “Oh my Darling.”

    As this happened I had a vision of migrating birds, of the whole flow of living creatures through the seasons. I felt the urge of life in its move towards mating, towards building a nest, having young, caring for them. I experienced this from the sense of the mystery of life that is in the Earth, and in the waves I had felt part of. This was the initiation into what we call death, another dimension of living, and other possibilities. I also knew myself to be standing on the other side of that point of transition. I knew I had already faced much of that change and stood with love. I was already partly absorbed back into the wonderful energy and love of the Earth.

    These experiences were deeply moving. I cried. I called out to life, “My Darling!” I wept like a child because what I was experiencing was something immense and beautiful.

    You are on the verge of an amazing opening of yourself to such wonders. Many people as their awareness reaches beyond what they feel is their normal self feel scared. Such resistances cause us to create awful dreams and fears as a means of avoiding our own inner world and its wonders. We feel that we will be swallowed up and we will die. It is important to say that when we meet the experience of powerlessness through becoming aware of the hugeness of your Life, which we are usually unaware if, it feels like something alien or attacking and it is a shock. If it helps use https://dreamhawk.com/approaches-to-being/opening-to-life/

    Tony

-Allison Mellelo 2017-11-03 7:19:30

I had a dream I was kneeling by myself looking at myself sleep in my living room. I felt that I urgently needed to wake myself up. I wanted to be back in my body. When I though back on it I believe I refered to myself in third person saying SHE needs to wake up right now! But I knew it was myself and I needed to get back in my body. Then I woke up. If you have any answers please email me thank you!

    -Tony Crisp 2017-11-05 14:35:44

    Hi – The answers I give arise not out of me thinking up things to say, but from fifty years of exploring dreams in depth. So some of what I write may seem wild. This may be because dreams arise and are experienced by a level of your mind or awareness that very few people have any concept or experience of – usually called the unconscious. So their view of dreams arise from their thinking mind, a very different creature than the thing giving you Life. Life dreamt millions of years before even humankind awoke and developed self awareness – a very young and precocious child. So I try to describe what takes place in the deeps of you.

    But it would help you to understand your dreams, if you would read – http://dreamhawk.com/news/summing-up/ and also http://dreamhawk.com/dream-encyclopedia/features-found-on-site/ which has so much information in.
    Nothing can replace your own ability to understand your dream. With a little effort you can do this by practising what is described in – http://dreamhawk.com/dream-encyclopedia/acting-on-your-dream/#BeingPersonor http://dreamhawk.com/dream-dictionary/getting-at-your-dreams-meaning/

    Tony

    Allison – Many people are gradually waking up to new awareness of themselves. It means that their consciousness of who they are is changing and enlarging to capture a wider awareness of their life. See http://dreamhawk.com/interesting-people/animal-children/#Program

    Perhaps you had been thinking about OBE experiences to trigger this dream? It obviously shows that you are not simply your body, also that the YOU looking at your sleeping body see it as a third person situation.

    This is explainable if we realise that our personality, based on the body’s experiences, but the human personality – the You that you call yourself, with a name, is only a tiny thing. It is moved and tossed around by all manner of drives, ambitions, emotions, fears, temptations, worries, love and desire with its pains and hopes.

    We are small because we know nothing about who we are and how we came to be – except of course in the words we have been taught are really the truth. We do not know anything about the mass of things that keep us alive – except what we have read, yet more words. We are largely unconscious of what makes our heart beat, and all the millions of things that Life behind our existence does, so we are moved by whatever moves us – whatever that is – childhood fears and social programming, or haunted by the past.

    So the larger consciousness we inhabit when we are dreaming tends to see our body and personality as something that is not the real you. See http://dreamhawk.com/dream-encyclopedia/dimensions-of-human-experience/ and http://dreamhawk.com/dream-encyclopedia/mountain-path/

-Stacy 2015-10-22 3:17:09

I can honestly say that an out of body experience does not ONLY happen when we are asleep. As a child, I found that I would have these out of body experiences in the middle of the day, in my living room while I’d watch cartoons or draw. I would find myself thinking deeply about what I’d want to draw or what I wanted to do the next day, basic thoughts. What happen next seems unrealike so be open minded. Thinking intensely, I would find that I would black out sort of, I’d have a loss of feeling, almost numb, and I would see myself sitting in front of me. At this point, without thinking, I’d get up and walk through the house. I could see my father working hard on a new computer design, my brother playing with his GIjoes, and my cat who would run away. I could walk on the celing, through walls, door, etc. Then it would happen, a woman would appear and offer me her hand, I’d go with her and we’d fly in darkness. Looking down, all you could see was what looked to be stars, she would always smile at me then take me back. I’d sit down, close my eyes, open them and I was back as if time had stopped. When I told my father about this, he laughed l, to this day, I am still not sure why I could separate from myself so easily or even why it even happened. I can’t do it when I’m awake anymore. I am asleep as you describe. I’m not saying your wrong, I just want to give you info from my personal experience.

    -Tony Crisp 2015-10-23 10:39:05

    Stacy – Thank you for your very interesting description of your OBE.

    Yes I have come across people experiencing an OBE while awake, but it is unusual and so I never mentioned it. So that makes you unusual.

    I myself experienced once the immediate switch from waking consciousness to a lucid state of dreaming.

    Your experiences suggest that you have the ability to enter what I call your inner world – and it doesn’t matter that you cannot do it now. They were triggered spontaneously in the past, but you could enter the world of what I call waking lucid dreaming if you wanted to. See http://dreamhawk.com/dream-encyclopedia/the-waking-lucid-dream/

    Being able to do it consciously enables a great many abilities that we otherwise lack – see – http://dreamhawk.com/body-and-mind/peoples-experiences-of-lifestream/

    Tony

-john laspia 2015-10-04 12:23:05

I was recenctly in a coma and nearly died at ucla ro als ragean. While asleep i dreamed of events past prwsent and future. At first i didnt think much of it, but now some of those dreams are coming true. Your description of near death triggering this is accurate. There are are other strange things that happened and the nurses commented on it.

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